ISIS in the Middle East is growing

I tried to look up ISIS on Wikipedia but could find nothing associated with Iraq or any Muslim or MidEastern group.

Anyone know of any links to somewhere that explains what is ISIS?

This is the wikipedia article.

For various reasons having to do with translation and such, they’re on Wikipedia under Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant.

If you get to the wikipedia article on Isis (the Egyptian god), there is a link at the top for ISIS.

What does that have to so with this:

People are waking up to the reality that the so-called Sunni/Shiite Civil War II in Iraq is a regional war where the head of the ISIS snake needs to be cut off immediately and that snake is not in Iraq I do not believe.
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has name a city in Syria as the ISIS caliphate’s capitol. That is not Iraq.

That remains to be seen, but yeah, so far so good.

The New York Times reports here that:

Just four or five days ago, ISIS and the Naqshbandia were acting all chummy, but now this? Perhaps a sign that the “Sunni coalition” is already beginning to come apart at the seams.

Meanwhile in Sadr City, a Shi’ite show of force.

But it’s not all on the up and up for the Shi’ites either.

ISIS did just take Qa’im, which, as John Cole points out, means that “Iran no longer has its land bridge to Lebanon.” So there’s that, too.

I guess the US civil war was just a “regional conflict”. And killing one guy isn’t going to change the situation in Iraq one bit.

Changing the political situation in Iraq is a simultaneous effort with many other efforts needed to be done. Killing the head of ISIS is one of those other goals. Killing all ISIS commanders and fighters where they lurk is another. Who said only one effort can dispatched at one time.

We can only respond to the goalpost you set in your posts, not the goalpost you come back afterwards and reset.

Your solution of killing all ISIS members is pure genius. Why didn’t anyone else think of that!?!?!?!?

You have no argument with me I see. I did not set a goalpost. You argued that ISIS is not the problem. Have you changed your mind after seeing that the Kurds have expressed the will to kill them everywhere in Iraq and Syria.

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When, exactly, did the Kurds “express the will” to kill off ISIS in Syria, too?

Would that even work?

I find no negatives for civilized people to erase such scum from the face of the earth.

Does it solve the problems that Maliki has in governing Iraq and with the military? No. All that is being worked on too.

Bin Ladin was a great kill, but killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi at the peak of his career would stun his caliphate building terrorist following.

He has been very careful to keep his identity secret (“Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi” is only a nom de guerre) and never appears publicly without a mask. How could anyone find him or make sure they had got him? Or prevent a lieutenant from taking his place under the same name, like the Dread Pirate Roberts?

They’ve been calling them to be ‘hit’ for years. I don’t think they meant bitch slapped.

Rooz Bahjay is a senior security official of the Kurdish Regional Government.

I’m going to set the same rules here I set in the other Iraq thread: those claiming another poster is misrepresenting their positions have immunity in the past but from this point forward I - and presumably other moderators if any wish to join the fun - will examine all such statements as time permits and hand out sanctions as appropriate.

Extremely difficult but that’s what we pay our intelligence agencies to do.

From your own link.

So - explicitly NOT offering to fight ISIS. They are saying they’ll fight for lands THEY (and not anyone else) feel they are entitled to. And yea - hey - it would be great if the USA dropped bombs where they pointed.

There’s a world of difference between “ISIS needs to get hit” and “we’ll send our troops into Syria and root 'em out.”

Quite. I’m sure they’ll be quite busy establishing and then holding onto the ‘facts on the ground’ Kurdistan they’re busy going for in all the chaos.

But there is a large Kurdish ethnic minority in Syria so I expect their land is on some map of Kurdistan and the Kurds would appreciate US help in getting hold of it.