Ho hum.
Fine, but what’s all that got to do with the thread topic, i.e., the possibility and viability of a one-state solution? And how do we know whether it would turn out more like South Africa or Zimbabwe?
In practice, how many more Palestinians would that likely add to the population between the Jordan and the sea?
Wikipedia: “Today, the estimated number of Palestinian refugees, including both first-generation refugees and their descendants, exceeds four million.[14]”
Yes, but how many actually want to live in Israel/Palestine?
A whole bunch. They claim a “right of return” also.
I would imagine that many of them would do it just to screw the Israelis.
And I want a safe place to go if things turn against us here, if I can talk them into it despite my Conservative conversion.
Yeah, I know Allessan, “Good luck with that.” 
That may depend on where they’re living now.
But we do see it coming from far off, right now. The Palestinians have the highest growth rate of any human population, ever - they average, I think, 8 children per family - and unlike historical societies where such large families were common, thanks to the fact that they have access to modern medicine, most of those children reach adulthood. Do you think they were 49% of the population 20 years ago? The only reason the Jewish population (2.7 children per family) has somehow managed to keep up is immigration, and unless you’ve heard of 2 million American Jews who have considered making Aliyah, that well has pretty much dried out.
“The womb of the Arab woman is my strongest weapon” - Yasser Arafat, and he wasn’t kidding.
Not only that, but Israel insisted that Egypt take Gaza along with the Sinai in the 1978 Camp David Accords. The Egyptians refused, and that douchebag Carter took their side.
:rolleyes:
Now, that’s a great argument for keeping them away.
If Israel were a person it would have what’s called a “narcissistic paranoid personality disorder”.
Just for the fun of it check out these symptoms:
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[li]Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation[/li][li]May take advantage of others to reach their own goal[/li][li]Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents[/li][li]Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance[/li][li]Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others[/li][li]Easily becomes jealous[/li][li]Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others[/li][li]Obsessed with oneself[/li][li]Mainly pursues selfish goals[/li][li]Trouble keeping healthy relationships[/li][li]Is easily hurt and rejected[/li][li]Sets unrealistic goals[/li][li]Wants “the best” of everything[/li][li]Appears as tough-minded or unemotional[/li][/ul]
Classic.
Thank you, Dr. Laura!
Israel didn’t get everything they wanted in the negotiations, that’s called compromise. Doesn’t make Carter a douchebag.
His book does, though.
Lol, you forgot one symptom:
Projecting one’s own faults onto others.
This is exactly why a one-state solution will not work. Rightly or wrongly, the general sentiment among the Arabs in the area is that the Jews “stole their land.” So if they are in the majority, they will try to chase out and/or slaughter all of the Jews.
A believe that a one-state solution could eventually work, but only after the Jews become a comfortable majority between the Mediterranean and the Jordan.
Sounds more and more like my Ex-wife.
Back several years ago, my wife and I were watching some show, and a bit about the Intifada came on. So being a history geek she knows, my wife asked me what it was all about. I attempted to give her as unbiased a recital of the circumstances as I could. She summed it up pretty well, I think.
“Wow, there really isn’t a good guy in this one, is there?”
Ruefully, I had to agree, but I did tell her my personal take on it.
I will state that I think the biggest sign of who the “bad guys” are here is that the IDF doesn’t lob random unguided rockets into Gaza, as a general rule.
The best way to predict is to look at how Arab majorities have behaved in other countries in the past and in the present. The facts are not encouraging.
Besides which, it’s too early to tell if South Africa will end up like Zimbabwe. White rule in South Africa ended less than 20 years ago.
Things didn’t start getting really ugly for whites in Zimbabwe until around 2000 – about 20 years after white rule ended.
Barring massive ethnic cleansing on the part of Israel which would lead them to being a pariah or the situation for Jewish Americans rather dramatically deteriorating, the latter is not happening.
Also, if life for Jews in Israel’s patron grew so bad they had to flee to Israel then the Arabs would be the least of their worries.
Come to think of it, what did they even want the Sinai for?