I was thinking of South Africa . . . Why “in the Middle East”?
Zimbabwe.
Do I have to show you a map?
Isreal, the Republic of Gaza and the Republic of the West Bank.
I don’t see any supercritical reason the last two should be forced into a discontiguous single state, and the Fatah/Hamas split forces a division that goes beyond mere geography. If there was a single governmental structure that I thought could speak for Gaza and the West Bank and operate under rule of law, I could imagine a two-state solution, maybe… though history doesn’t give me any confidence that a Palestinian state will be anything but the shakiest of democracies, always one election from theocracy and/or dictatorship.
Wait – is this right, or did you mean to say one-state solution here?
You’re right - my bad.
Hey, it’s late here.
Actually, you are describing a situation that covers most Islamic countries throughout most of Islamic history; Jews were always better off there, and more nearly equals to the majority, than in Christian Europe at any time before the “Jewish Emancipation” of the late 18th Century. But then Israel was founded, and the whole Muslim world went a little crazy for antisemitism . . .
As for nowadays, Egypt, AFAIK. I’ve heard of Christians there taking it on the ear, but never Jews.
Where you live, it has not been early for millennia.
Taking it in the ear? That’s gotta hurt!! :eek:
But you’re right. There is little trouble for Egyptian Jews. All 10 of them who remain. I only slightly exaggerate.
What say you to that, newcomer, since you seem to be the only 100% Palestinian sympathizer in this thread? What reason have we to think that Palestinians in power would not persecute/dispossess any Jews?
Is there a particular desire for Gaza held by the Palestinians? Merely because they are already there, or is there some religious significance as in Jerusalem?
It would be really difficult to move all those rocket launchers!
Ah.
I would presume that Egypt’s and Jordan’s renunciations of said territorial claims are in favor of Palestinian independence.
I think it’s just their home; there are no Islamic holy cities in the Gaza Strip.
The Gaza Strip, BTW, is the same land that was known once as “Philistia” or the “Pentapolis”, the land of the five cities of the Philistines. I suppose the people living there now might be the lineal descendants of the culturally long-vanished Philistines – among many other nationalities of ancestors, of course.
Only 49%. Not a majority, let alone an overwhelming one. Making Israeli citizens of them all would not be like abolition of Apartheid in SA, where power was handed from one electorate to a completely different one overnight. If the Pals ever become an absolute numerical majority, that will be seen coming from far off and everybody will have time to plan for it.
Well, that would be quite a blanket statement.
I am, however, constantly amazed how in the perception of ME conflict Israel prevails as the “victim” all the while basic facts such as number of dead, amount of land & property stolen, daily difficulties of life significantly prevail on the side of Palestinians.
Yes, that is truly amazing.
Back home, we used to say, if Serbs hire Israelis to run their propaganda department we are all screwed. Too bad Serbs are immensely stupid so the perception of Balkan war almost matched basic facts - but that’s only because of their low international cultural awareness.
You would presume wrong. There was nothing stopping Egypt and Jordan from setting up a Palestinian state in Gaza or the West Bank from 1948-67 when they were in physical control of the lands, but they had no inclination to do so. Jordan in particular has always had its own problems with Palestinian refugees, see for example Black September. The crowning moment in this event of how bizarre politics can get in the middle east was when Syria invaded Jordan to intervene on behalf of the PLO/PLA/various Palestinian militant organizations who were being put down by the Jordanian Army; the Syrian Air Force never entered the battle and the Syrian Army was eventually contained and driven back by heavy air attacks by the Jordanian Air Force. The reason the Syrian Air Force stayed out of the action? The threat of Israeli intervention on behalf of Jordan, King Hussein was asking the British to ask Israel to intervene.
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