Yeah, but is lobster meat? “I don’t eat friggin’ lobster or anything like that. Because they’re alive when you kill it.”
Dude! How old ARE you? The pyramids were invented back, like, AGES ago!
By aliens!
Poultryhead
I read a book about the Korean War (The Four Deuces) in which those c-rations were called “Ham and Motherfuckers”. Still makes me laugh out loud thinking about it!
As far as the OP goes, people have cognitive dissonance about all sorts of things. I worked with an Indian guy who was a vegetarian. Except he ate chicken. And pepperoni on pizza. Sometimes BBQ ribs. But if you asked, he was a vegetarian.
Maybe we need a new forum - Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Bitch About (MPSIMBA).
Kelevra
Quoted (and bolded) so the OP has another shot at it. When people talk about meat and fish it’s an accepted convention. The point of language is communication clarity. If convention is to call bird meat “poultry” and everyone agrees, then it’s clear and those definitions are doing their jobs. When someone tells me, ‘I can’t eat meat, but I love fish’ I don’t assume they are writing some scientific treatise, I figure that the superstitions associated with their creation myth prevent them from eating some meat but not all. Meat and fish are clear ways to communicate the difference between walking meat and swimming meat. Simple, clear.
If you’re talking about Catholic fasting or abstinence days, fish was never included in the term ‘meat’. So eating fish wasn’t a work around, but claiming that barnacle geese were fish was.
The word ‘meat’ original meant food, or something eaten as a meal. So specifying that it only means the muscles of animals is already narrowing the definition, and everyone has adjusted to that. Per wikipedia:
Yes, having the word refer to more than one category can be annoying. But both categories are well known. You consider your audience and make your choice, clarifying as necessary. Although if you’re creating a menu, you’d either have categoies for meat, fish, and poultry; or you’d have a single category of entrées (or dinners, lunches, etc.).
“They think with meat.”
According to Rasputina rats are fish also.
mmmm, electron plasma brain.
“Fishing is for sport only. Fish Meat is practically a vegetable.”
Agreed - and rabbit fetuses, beavers, etc.
So you’re saying that not all meat is meat. But all meat is meat.
That’s quite true when thought of this way.
I’m not really sure that I’ve ever met anybody who literally doesn’t comprehend the difference between the set and the subset of meat. I’m assuming they’re just using the subset. I’m probably not a good data point though because I’ve mostly never challenged their initial statements and have never asked them if they knew the difference and which definition of meat they meant.
Had lunch at Godfather’s Pizza today. On my second trip up, this long haired hippy freak is yelling at the manager. He’s holding a piece of their Cheeseburger Pizza (pic in link) and keeps repeating “No, YOU need to be more careful about what you put under the ‘cheese pizza’ sign, because some of us don’t eat meat!” The manager (nice guy) is very confused, because this pizza is very obviously about 50% hamburger by weight. He’s trying to explain that it is still early in the buffet (@11:10am) and they don’t have all of their pizzas out yet. I’ll note that there are more little signs than there are pizzas.
Guy gets all huffy and storms out.
Manager walks over to his wife and two kids, who are very happily eating their pizza (with meat). Wife just shrugs her shoulders and shakes her head. Attitude was more like ‘oh gee darn’ and not bothered by it.
Three minutes later he comes back in, demands a refund, then walks out again.
You know what you call the part of a piece of fruit that is neither stems, seeds,nor peel?
The meat.
And yet children are sometimes referred to as ‘Crotch Fruit’.
You can live on them but they taste like shit.
They’re vegetarian, not breatharian.
Sorry, I’m slow today. What’s the joke? That vegetables are products of living creatures as humans harvest them, or something?
Plants are living creatures… What did you think they were, rocks?
An intellectual carrot. The mind boggles.