Hey, my country was the only one that helped the U.S. on 9/11, and members of our armed forces recently received commendations from Bush himself because of our work in Afghanistan. But go to Iraq? The current government never dreamed of going there, will expend all its political capital if it decides to join into the mythical missile defence shield, and is likely to have a difficult, difficult time helping the U.S. if the next attack occurs by 2007.
Whys that a bad thing? The US has bases in the UK and Western Europe Japan and South Korea, and from what I learn, it isn’t a bad thing.
And, as the recent election shows, just because you’re wrong doesn’t mean you’re outnumbered.
Of course :rolleyes:
WHAT?!!
Well if Bush is that terrible, it could of been worse, and it isn’t. His will to stay the course in Iraq is commendable.
Why a duck?
Lemme see if I can figure out what the fuck this means.
Well, if Bush is an incompetent boob or, worse, a lying fuctard, it could have been worse than if an honest, intelligent president got us into a war against a country that did absolutely nothing to us and was not a threat. Since he is willing to continue to be an incompetent boob or lying fucktard, then we should love him for it.
How about this:
Well, if Bush is an incompetent boob, then it could have been worse than it is now. It could be raining lava from the clouds or Canada and Mexico could be launching missiles at us. But they aren’t, so Bush is doing great in Iraq.
No? Hmmm.
It could be worse. The Democrats could have been in power on 9/11 and then what kind of Godforsaken, stupid, useless war would we be in right now?
Right. 'cause it’d be sooo much better if “people like RedFury” simply ceased to exist so ignorant, xenophobic assclowns such as yourself, could join hands unperturbed and engage in your masturbatory fantasies of laudable command and great (imaginary) success.
Meanwhile, all over the world, “people like RedFury,” were of one voice after the tragic events of 9/11 – never mind that RedFury himself lived a scant 40 miles from Ground Zero at the time and felt and became one with the all-pervasive feelings of the aftermath: grief, anger, disbelief, shock, etc. No, never mind that myself and many/most of the same people that opposed the looming Iraq disaster from the start also stood united in our support of this Admistration and their actions in Afghanistan. Initially anyway – because the way that war was handled also gave us a glimpse as to the ineptness of those handling the operation. Fact is we’ll never know if OBL could have been apprehended at Tora Bora had American Forces been sent in his persuit as opposed to sending a proxy army of corrupt tribesmen.
Having said that, the point I am making and that no doubt eludes you, is that contrary to your facile and fallacious claims, my opposition to the current Administration is neither mindless nor based on some sort of seminal anti-Americanism. To give you but one example, I lived in the US for longer than you’ve been alive.
Want me to shut up? Easy. I’ll do so as soon as your idols quit fucking-up. If anything, my scorn for them has been well-earned – credit where credit’s due.
Meantime, deal, turdboy.
Yes, it would be great if you were gone with your lameass insults, but then again free speech is what we’re fighting for, and one of the things the Iraqis are with the Coalitions allies there.
The reason why I mentioned you is because your hatred for Bush and anything his administration touches is almost pathalogical, which is fine, not so fine in debates which talk about how American troops are in Iraq, or the success of its rebuilding projects in Iraq and Afghanistan. What am saying is, even if you did hate Bush and thought he’s the worst president in history, there would be at least some good points (for his Administration, not his enemies) you’d pick up on, just to make sure you weren’t completely biased. RedFury, I’d bet you 100 Dollars you’d want to see Iraq implode and destroy itself, just to see president Bush have egg on his face, and you know it.
:rolleyes: nice to use 9/11 as emotional blackmail. Yes Iraq was a wrong invasion, but we have to finish what we started and help the Iraqis get back on track and mak thei nation a success again. I believe in the Iraqi Government and its Coalition allies, I have no sympathy for people who say ‘it was better under Saddam’ or ‘the insurgents have some sort of legal status’
It doesn’t elude me, President Bush and the US army can be fucking morons sometimes, but it doesn’t stop me supporting them for the reasons long term, such as building up and defending emerging democracies in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Sure, and my scorn for your Idols is credt due as well. 
Nothing is to be gained by telling the Iraqis now to ‘fuck off, we’ve been here long enough’
like I said, your insults suck.
No, am not saying get behind the president in his policies or whatnot, just that he’s not the worst president you’ve had in your history and that the political attacks on Iraq to make the president look bad is shortchanging the Iraqi people somewhat.
Somebody’s not paying attention. Have you read any of elucidator’s posts in this thread?