I’m kinda disappointed we even know about it. I mean, no one was legally mandated to tell the press.
Younger, but still old.
I just got an AP notice that Paterno has died.
ETA: Late, obviously. Celebrity Death Pool for the win.
May his obituaries not be sanitized.
The ones I’ve looked at have covered both sides of his legacy.
Joe Paterno passed information on to the athletic director because he thought the athletic director would better know what to do.
Joe Paterno used to be the athletic director.
I wonder what he would have done if this had all taken place in 1982 instead of 2002? After all, it would have been his call…
Let’s ask him!
Oh, right.
I follow college football pretty closely, and I think this is pretty much spot-on.
Starving Artist is so absurd I don’t know why people even engage him, but the idea on the other side that Paterno was some kind of Machiavellian, deliberate pedophile enabler is ridiculous to anyone who knows anything at all about the man.
Paterno was a philanthropist and a wonderful person who did more good in the world than 99% of the people who hate him … he was also, for the last two decades, a stubborn old man who refused to give up his driver’s license and the keys to the car he’d been driving for his entire adult life just because some whippersnappers thought it was time. So he held onto the keys to a very powerful vehicle after it was clear to everyone that his skills were diminishing. And when faced with an extraordinary situation, his reflexes weren’t up to it and he drove into a crowd of children.
People want to live in a action-movie world, with clear-cut good guys who always do good and bad guys who always do bad.
Unfortunately, real life is more often just a tragedy.
So could we say that this thread is moot now? Assuming Joe was as wrong as most people here say he was, he lost his job and is now dead. Punishment enough to end the pitting or do we need to dig up his fresh corpse and put his head on a pike?
I was hoping that he was just engaging in horseplay with the Grim Reaper. Turns out it was for real.
Indeed. Saved a seat for you and everything!
That was sudden…
The grand jury report states that:
"The report says McQueary was “never questioned by university police and no other entity conducted an investigation until he testified in the grand jury in December 2010.”
So do you have a cite for the investigation that appeared to have occurred?
Is it true Franco Harris is on his way to the Vatican as we speak to demand JoePas re-instatement into life.
What evidence did Paterno have that the allegations appeared to be investigated at all? At his meeting with the VPs he might (or might not) have received some assurances that it would be looked into, but he had absolutely no evidence at a later date that any such investigation had occurred. None has been made public that I’m aware of.
Unless you know something the rest of us don’t.
Nope, the thread is also for the rest of the program members that acted like a typical old boys network, they also acted as stooges, there is still Curley, [del]Larry, Moe [/del] and Schultz that will have to explain properly the formal accusations that they lied to the courts.
Oh, he’s making shit up. He does it all the time. Last page he was back to stating that McQueary’s report to Paterno “called into question the veracity” of what McQueary saw, which no one – including Paterno – ever testified to. It’s a bullshit artist bullshitting.
RIP Joe Paterno, may God have mercy on his soul (which I hope people who don’t much like me will say of me too, goodness knows I’ll need it). All of us have stuff to be sorry for, and while I can criticize (and have) Joe P. as a public figure who erred, I don’t know if he repented toward the end, it’s quite possible, here’s hoping so.
Yes, let’s hope so, so that all those young boys could be magically unraped because JoePa sought repentance.
Ahem.
Me, I’m satisfied that every single JoePa obituary will mention Sandusky’s name. Seems like a nice bit of karmic justice.
Yep, it’s true! I, in my own nonfamous-as-an-excellent-person-and-nurturing-football-coach kind of way, got tagged as a pedophile last night. It went down like this:
While en route to a relative’s house for a visit I stopped at a nearby 7-11 for a can of pop and a couple of the chocolate covered cherries they keep on the counter. Standing in the way at the however were a couple of boys around 11 or 12 years with several bags of goodies and a couple of fountain drinks, discussing animatedly whether they had enough money for all stuff they wanted to buy and which things to keep and which to leave if they didn’t have enough.
Growing perturbed that they were standing between me and my beloved chocolate covered cherries and anxious to be on my way, I reached past them, saying “Pardon me, boys, I just need to grab a couple of these cherries,” where upon they apologized profusely and very politely for being in my way and explained that they weren’t ready to pay for anything anyway, they were just trying to figure out what they could afford.
About that time another clerk came up and told them she could help them at her register so they scooped up all their stuff and moved over there. So I paid for my stuff and walked outside, stopping on the sidewalk by a trash can to unwrap one of the cherries, when they came walking out of the store with what seemed to be fewer items than they had before.
Impressed with their politeness and friendly manner, I asked them if they’d had enough money for the things they wanted to buy. They said they were able to get everything but their drinks. I asked how much the drinks were and they said 76 cents… “each”! 
So I pulled out my billfold and gave them a couple of dollars to pay for their drinks, and watched smilingly as they hurried back into the store to get their drinks.
But then, as I turn back to head for my car, I spot this redneck bozo further down the sidewalk standing there with his hands on his hips glaring at me, certain, no doubt - as would be most of the posters in this thread - that I was but one step away from from luring them behind the store for a quick bout of rapeage. I thought about challenging that dillweed but was concerned that residual annoyance from this thread might cause things to turn physical, and so I simply loitered a moment longer to let him know I wasn’t intimidated in the slightest, and then got back into my car and continued on my way.
So this is the kind of world you people are creating, where men are virtually prohibited from interacting pleasantly with children (and men are getting into fistfights on sidewalks over imaginary pedophiles) and children are taught to be fearful and distrustful of men. I have no doubt that in 15 or 20 years Oprah-esque programs will be full of people with screwed up romantic and family lives because they were raised to be fearful of men.
And guess what? Kids will still be being sexually abused, so all you will have accomplished - as usual - is to create tons of new problems while the problems you sought to eliminate by doing so continue to flourish. So once again your hysteria, paranoia and fearfulness have succeeded in screwing things up majorly for the many while accomplishing precious little for the few.
Good job, nabobs! :rolleyes:
Nice non-story.