Everybody is aware he did what he was required to do legally. Most people don’t give a shit about that because although he did do the bare minimum, he easily could have done more and did not. His actions evinced little concern for the kids being abused.
Wish all the enabler’s enablers would read that. Seems to be at about their level of comprehension. Then again, reading them here, mebbe not.
Oh snap! The simpleton scores! 'cept not at all.
Who the fuck here has been defending the BoT? That’s right, Einstein, NO ONE! That most of us agree Paterno was rightly fired does not, in any way, shape or form, mean that we think it is the end of it. Far from it, if you read my posts alone, you’ll note one recurring theme: many more heads should roll.
And yes, I include any and all having to do with this vile cover-up. Tom Corbett, for instance, IMO has a lot of explaining to do.
So, your point? I mean besides the one atop of your head of course…
I can remember coincidentally going into a Wal-Mart on the Monday morning after Dale Earnhardt was killed. There was a floor display of Dale Earnhardt child safety seats. They were probably sold out by the end of the day.
The problem is that there are times when justice would be better served if people would do exactly that - the McMartin Preschool case for instance.
A former coworker of mine was once accused by his ex-wife of molesting their daughter. He got to enjoy seeing his name in the paper, lots of hostile interviews with police detectives, & being forbidden contact with his kid. His ex finally admitted that she lied to strengthen her case in a custody battle. To this day - 10 years later- more people remember that he was accused than that he was cleared.
On one hand, I can’t see why Paterno, McQueary, & the others weren’t flipping coins to see who got to dial 911. It certainly smacks of a coverup that they didn’t. On the other hand, they did contact the Second Mile people. I assume this is what eventually led the grand jury to question them. Why contact anyone if you’re trying to cover it up?
My best guess at this point is that they were all terrified of doing the right thing & still being crucified for it. As someone pointed out earlier, there would have been a shit storm, media frenzy, & court of public opinion witch hunt no matter what they did.
And maybe that’s the lesson in this whole Penn State cluster fuck.
It’s better to get smacked in the face for doing the right thing than getting smacked in the face for doing the wrong thing.
Parts of the admin have been ‘gently urging’ him to retire for about a decade… being “concerned for his health”, of course. In other words, they thought he was too old and too old fashioned, but they didn’t want to upset the deep pocket alumni or students by forcing the issue.
If you bought into the “he was a God” shit, sorry. Popular, yes. A cash cow, yes. Able to write his own contract, yes. More powerful than anybody else on campus, no. It simply didn’t work that way most of the time. And HE certainly didn’t act like he believed it either.Don’t believe everything you read.
Considering that this incident happened in 2002 and, even by Second Mile’s own statement, they didn’t cut ties with Sandusky until 2008 (with Paterno even being on the board of the organization), I’m not sure what’s going on with them, either.
I actually meant the people in this thread who, once they have been shown that there is no doubt that something sexual occurred, have spent time wondering if it was that bad, if there was a way to mistake what had gone on for something else, etc. People who have the luxury of a lot of facts and hindsight and are still trying to find loopholes.
I do agree that, in real life, statements need to be examined carefully. We’re not talking about statements here. We’re talking about a 28-year-old man making eye contact with a boy who was being raped, and doing nothing. We’re talking about people who read about that in significant detail and are still saying, “Yeah, but…”
You could just as easily argue that Paterno should have retired long ago, but wouldn’t because he thought he was a Supreme Court justice and knew that the trustees didn’t have the nerve to get rid of him even though they haven’t really been in contention for a national title in a pretty long time, have only won one outright conference championship since '94, had some players run into legal trouble and had a string of shitty seasons in the early 2000s and were only 7-6 last year. Bobby Bowden wasn’t up to coaching at the end of his career and Paterno probably wasn’t either, and that’s independent of all this. It doesn’t matter that there were people who wanted to see him go for other reasons doesn’t matter. The firing was completely justified considering what happened. What’s the message if they hadn’t fired him? “Hey student, come to Penn State - where our most powerful people didn’t give a shit that a member of the staff was raping children, but where we’ll absolutely give two shits about you?”
I think everything in this case boils down to “who knew what about Jerry Sandusky. And when did they find out” So going by that premise, we know that Corbett knew at least as much as the four individuals so far directly implicated in this case – meaning that as far back as '08 he has access to not just the '02 incident, but the three prior ones as well.
Now, I realize this is a legal matter and as AG, Corbett was likely forbidden to speak about his ongoing investigation. But that’s exactly what I’d like to have explained. Because, again, for the past THREE years minimum, this guy knew as much as the others and yet did NOTHING to stop a sexual predator from having free reign on Campus…never mind simply roaming at large.
Question narrows down to this: was it ethical of him to withhold this information for this amount of time? Could he not have resigned/recused himself from the investigation in order to do the “right thing”? Or, like others in this sordid mess, did he lose his priorities?
Along similar lines, I also question the fact that no other members of the BoT, AD, Faculty, etc. knew anything about Sandusky. After all, large as the school is, we’re still talking about a rural College Town, where everyone tends to know pretty much everything about their neighbors. Divide that by the number of School Personal, and I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe many more people knew than the ones currently involved.
But yes, I’ll admit that’s putting the horse ahead of the carriage…for now.
ETA: Sandusky was seen in the school gym as recently as last Friday.
No, I just think you’re an idiot for arguing that the attorney general should have stopped doing his job so he could announce what was happening in the middle of an investigation. Nevermind that Sandusky has known since 2008 that he was being investigated.
If it isn’t obvious… and I guess it isn’t… I think if the Pennsylvania AG’s office had had any evidence Sandusky was abusing children during the period he was under investigation, they would have arrested him on the spot. Since they didn’t do that, it’s likely they had no reason to believe he was doing it. They were investigating what he’d done in the past. The fact that he was using Penn State offices and workout equipment doesn’t mean anything to the prosecutors. The fact that he was there doesn’t mean he had to be raping children. It just speaks very poorly of Penn State that they didn’t even tell him to stay the hell off campus after '98 or even '02.