I get annoyed by people who presume they know another person’s beliefs because of his or her race, but is too chickenshit to admit it.
- Racism is assuming someone behaves like a stereotype because of the color of their skin.
- Yes.
3.Yes. - Yes.
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I’m white. So I’m insulted by black racists and white racists for different reasons. I’m insulted by black racists when they think I’m an unwashed serial killer with a small penis who can’t dance. And I’m insulted by white racists when they think I’m one of them.
Besides I always shower after killing a hooker to get the blood off. And my small penis can so dance.
I use the only consistent definition for racism I know of. Racism is the belief that there are human races. There are none. And it seem stupid to pretend that there are.
I’ve rarely encountered such people in person. I see them mostly on TV. It annoys me too. But alternative plausible explanations don’t sell with me. There’s usually a most likely explanation. It’s always plausible that someone uses racist language because they have Tourettes. Bring a doctor’s note in that case. If it walks like a duck…
I don’t like race based anything. Again, because there are no races. Affirmative Action has been implemented as a quota system, which is reprehensible. I have no problem with affirmative action based on need and merit.
Again, there is no such thing as race. I don’t pretend that there is, and I don’t abide people who do.
I got time. I had enough to enter this post again, because the first one is mysteriously gone. So if you have more to say, feel free.
Small penises dance like this.
Big penises dance like this.
There’s very few things that you can define so precisely that you can say your definition is definitive. Most definitions are doing good is they’re 90-99% accurate.
I think people avoid defining racism because then other people would start saying, “See, this doesn’t fit your definition. So it isn’t racism.”
It’s true that some people see racism where it probably isn’t present. But it’s also true that some people deny racism when it probably is present. Personally, I think there are more false denials of racism then there are false claims of racism.
I’d be happy to end all racial discrimination. But you wouldn’t come close to doing that by ending affirmative action.
You want to eliminate affirmative action? Work on eliminating all of the other forms of racial discrimination that make it necessary.
I agree with you on this one.
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That was EXACTLY what I suspected, it is great to learn that this is already well understood…now I know the proper name for the phenomenon. I learned something I consider VERY important to use in my life, so…thank you.
Well, call me stupid and racist, because races exist. Before the Dawn covers it pretty well. If you feed thousands of peoples’ DNA into a database, and ask software to determine what groups it sees, the software - without guidance - separates the DNA first into 5 large groups, which correspond with people of African, European/Indus, Asian, Australia and South Pacific, and American ancestry. That’s an objective analysis. A software algorithm has no axe to grind, no preconceptions, and no judgment.
Probably best to discuss it in this thread.
“Green” is a code word for a racial minority? I assume? Or bitching about environmentalists? Just clarifying 'cause I’m dumb.
ETA: I see you answered last night.
I’m guessing either a code for “black persons”, using an unimaginative different color to obscure their intent. Or alternatively like someone above said, “green” as in “green card requiring Martian Aliens”.
Erm. That is not remotely true to my knowledge. Just to mention two probable falsehoods (based on scientific research that is pretty well known these days), one southern African group is further removed from their direct neighbors in southern Africa than those neighbors are removed from a Swede, a Mayan, or a Tasmanian. Second, the peoples of the South Pacific are largely descended from a group who left southeast China or Taiwan a few thousand years ago. They are not closely related to Australian natives. I see the people on Amazon.com by and large are liking the book, but this review: Amazon Sign-In, most especially the part about modern humans being confined to Africa until 50,000 years ago (WTF?) suggests the author may well be talking out of his ass when it comes to facts.
Anyway, IMO races exist in a number of senses, sociology being the most important and culture also important in certain instances. But where you draw the lines differs from society to society; and in a strictly biological sense, those lines – to the extent they do exist – are not in the same places as Western racialist science has liked to put them.
Eh, since it’s likely to continue in this thread: I have to confess I don’t know what the parameters of such a blind software would look like. There needs to be a sorting algorithm no matter what. If it works something like a factor analysis (multiway analysis of variance perhaps) then that’d require defining groups and determining if there are statistical differences between groups. The two obvious genetic differences that come to mind for me would be, first, sex: there would be at least one leg of a chromosome different between every person of different sexes. Then the other thing would be height: I read that the human genome project found greater significance between groups according to height than between groups according to race.
I get your point but I don’t think it makes someone a less than decent person to have human flaws.
IN the late 60s early 70s my oldest sister married a black man and brought him home to meet the family. We lived in rural Maine and I believe he was the first black person I had ever seen or met. We soon discoverd that some of my brothers in law were racist and refused to come vist when he was there. They didn’t even want their wives to visit thier own sister if he was around.
My dear grandmother didn’t want my sister to bring him around because she was concerned what the neighbors would say. As a teenage budding young liberal I was confused and offended. Still, I couldn’t bring myself to disown these people whom I had loved and had known so many positive things about.
It’s disappointing to see the flaws in people you know and work with, and may otherwise like and care about, but that’s hummanity.
I’ll have to track down a copy of the book, to get to the original research he was discussing.
Is it radical to say that homo sapiens left Africa about 50,000 years ago?
Really? When was this done. I just wrote a program that divided everybody into a few thousand population groups. I thought that must not be right, so I fixed it, and then it divided every body into a few groups that crossed continents. But that couldn’t be right so I tried again and it only came back with one group. But I don’t give up easily. I got it to work right. Feed in 50,000 DNA samples, and it comes back with 50,000 groups.
But that was the hard way. I should have just asked the software to figure it out. How do you do that? Do you talk into the mouse like it’s microphone?
I’m not trying to make judgments on radical or not, but I believe the consensus says it’s false – there are skeletons in the middle east in the neighborhood of twice that age that show the traits of modern humans.
To add to what you’re saying, it’s amusing that with all his insistance that “race” is a real biological concept as opposed to just being a socio-political construct, people should notice Rand repeatedly refuses to define exactly what a “white” person is and what a “black” person is.
For example, Monstro, while I mean no disrespect, while you clearly consider yourself black, and are considered black by most Americans, I suspect that like most “African-Americans” or “American Blacks” you’d be considered a non-black had you been born in Brazil, South Africa, Cuba, the Dominican Republic, or any other country where most people were of Sub-Saharran African descent.