I used to say I was taking rat poison to avert blood clots. The name of the active ingredient is warfarin and it is used for rat poison. I am aware that it is also used for humans, in smaller doses. After all I took it until my doctor put me on Eliquis as a blood thinner instead.
I think it is fine to call Ivermectin a horse medicine, even if it is also used for parasites in humans.
We could perhaps call it a de-wormer instead?
The funny part about it is that Fox News was wrong 2,014 times last week.
But hey, both sides.
You’re saying they just might have an agenda? 
I do wonder who is telling the truth here. Right now we have a he said she said situation.
If she had said that he was exaggerating, and that the hospitals are not overwhelmed, then I’d probably believe her.
But that she says they haven’t had any, I find to be a bit unlikely.
I’d believe the hospital’s official statement released on their website over the statement of one doctor who apparently hasn’t even been working there for the last two months. YMMV.
I wasn’t aware that the Dr. had named that particular hospital with his claims, yet that singular hospital issued a rebuttal. Do you know where it is that he named them as the hospital in question?
Actually, now that I look into it further, I’m not sure what relevance the hospital’s statement has.
“Dr. McElyea said patients are packing his eastern and southeastern Oklahoma hospitals after taking ivermectin doses meant for a full-sized horse”
vs.
"With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.
NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose."
I’m not sure where it he claimed anything about the Sallisaw location, nor anything about the Northeastern Health System.
Be like someone claiming that Burger King serves horse meat, and McDonalds making a statement that the claimant doesn’t work for McDonalds, and that they’ve never, ever, sold horse meat.
Both doesn’t actually refute the claim in anyway, and also makes me wonder if McDonalds serves horse meat.
Eh, more like someone claiming fast food restaurants served horse meat and Burger King, where the person was a cashier, saying, “To be clear, this guy is no longer with us and BTW no, we don’t serve horse meat.”
One of many places that he was a cashier, as well as being in a group of other cashiers.
And of course, having been a fast food cashier, I was often in charge of unloading trucks, so if your analogy of cashier was to imply that he wouldn’t actually know what was going on behind the scenes, I would dispute that both on the grounds that as a doctor, he would know what is going on behind the scenes, as does your friendly neighborhood fast food cashier.
Has several people of many positions in the state’s healthcare system talking about how scarce ICU room is in most hospitals in OK, that they are even having to transfer patients out of state. This is of course because of COVID, but it also means that just one bed occupied by someone who has poisoned himself with horse de-wormer is a bed not available to someone else who needs it.
I don’t think that this one statement from this one person in charge of one hospital in any way contradicts what Dr. McElyea said, and I also find it to be an unlikely claim that they haven’t had a single case of people OD’ing on Ivermectin. Unless of course, their hospital is so full of COVID cases that they aren’t admitting any new patients, and so are turning away OD cases.
No, I wasn’t in any way implying that a cashier wouldn’t know what was happening elsewhere in the store. I was talking about the employer’s statement. My example was intended to suggest that employers often will state that someone is no longer affiliated with their entity so people don’t get pissed off at the entity. They also clarify, “We, an entity formerly associated with Mr. X, in fact do not [sell horse meat/run a sex trafficking ring under the pizzaria/etc.].”
In other news, there is speculation about an upcoming shortage of sugar lumps (courtesy of Thomas Wykes).
The KXMX story is reporting that in the KFOR interview, the Dr. said he was associated with the Sallisaw hospital, which he is. But if he hasn’t worked there in two months, how does he know there’s a backup in the ER?
I wash my horsemeat down with horse medicine.
Did you read the original KFOR interview? Here it is again:
Can you please cite where he mentioned this specific hospital’s ER being backed up?
Is there any independent verification of this doctor’s claims?
This is wonderfully bizarre, if true:
Archives of Applied Science Research (2011): Effects of Ivermectin therapy on the sperm functions of Nigerian onchcerciasis† patients †onchocerciasis == river blindness Rationale for them to perform this study: … a recent report showed that 85% of…
Here’s the actual paper:
effects-of-ivermectin-therapy-on-the-sperm-functions-of-nigerian-onchocerciasis-patients.pdf
Idonije, O. B., E. Asika, O. Okhiai, and I. Nweke. “Effects of Ivermectin Therapy on the sperm function of Nigerian onchocerciasis patients.” Arch Appl Sci Res 3 (2011): 533-543.
The narrative about hospitals in part of Oklahoma being overrun with ivermectin overdose patients and having to turn away trauma victims, continues to break down.
A second hospital (Integris) which employed the physician making the claims says that its facilities, including the hospital at which Dr. McElyea worked, have seen a “handful” of such patients.
And the doctor himself is backtracking, now saying that he was “just a little misquoted”.
The original report in Rolling Stone that went viral sounded way overblown from the get-go. The reason it was picked up by various outlets including the Guardian and MSNBC so readily and uncritically, without careful confirmation, is that it conveniently fit a narrative about foolish people out in the sticks who ignore proven medicine and endanger themselves and others.
There’s already ample justification for criticizing Covid science deniers. Jumping on the dubious Oklahoma story just provides fuel for the “fake news” shouters and denialists.
Sales and usage of horse medicine to treat Covid continues on. There are a lot of articles about this such as:
Note to self: Make sure to avoid Dr. Michael “Quack” Turner of Kennewick, WA. Kennewick is one of the three cities that makes up the “Tri-Cities” and is being ravaged by overwhelming Covid cases.