Jack Welch: pure projection?

The BLS is a pretty unimpeachable source. Conservatives are big fans when the unemployment numbers go up and harsh critics when it goes down. Its almost like they WANT unemployment to keep going up.

Conservatives spend a lot of time going on and on about how the BLS isn’t taking into account the underemployed and the folks that drop out of the labor market as if they were using a different yardstick for Obama than hey have used for any other president. Isn’t this the same yardstick they used for Ronald Reagan?

A lot of plans can’t sustain themselves without overpayments, how do you justify paying 15% more for a medicare advantage beneficiary than a regular medicare beneficiary?

The rest of your post is conspiracy theory.

Not if they were actually overpayments. If PBS received more funding per broadcast hour than ABC, CBS, NBC or FOX raised in revenue per broadcast hour, then sure, they should get cut.

Jack Welch and Donald Trump no longer have any credibility. I wonder how long before Jack Welch starts “just asking questions” about Obama’s birth certificate.

Although this thread seems to have completely moved off topic, this seems to be the best place for this.

Jack Welch: I Was Right About That Strange Jobs Report

The charge relates primarily to three numbers not passing his personal bullshit test.

[Quote=Jack Welch]
In August, the labor-force participation rate in the U.S. dropped to 63.5%, the lowest since September 1981. By definition, fewer people in the workforce leads to better unemployment numbers. That’s why the unemployment rate dropped to 8.1% in August from 8.3% in July.

Meanwhile, we’re told in the BLS report that in the months of August and September, federal, state and local governments added 602,000 workers to their payrolls, the largest two-month increase in more than 20 years. And the BLS tells us that, overall, 873,000 workers were added in September, the largest one-month increase since 1983, during the booming Reagan recovery.

These three statistics—the labor-force participation rate, the growth in government workers, and overall job growth, all multidecade records achieved over the past two months—have to raise some eyebrows. There were no economists, liberal or conservative, predicting that unemployment in September would drop below 8%.
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Combined with the statement that the BLS process is not very scientific.

[QUOTE=Jack Welch]
Let’s get real. The unemployment data reported each month are gathered over a one-week period by census workers, by phone in 70% of the cases, and the rest through home visits. In sum, they try to contact 60,000 households, asking a list of questions and recording the responses.

Some questions allow for unambiguous answers, but others less so. For instance, the range for part-time work falls between one hour and 34 hours a week. So, if an out-of-work accountant tells a census worker, “I got one baby-sitting job this week just to cover my kid’s bus fare, but I haven’t been able to find anything else,” that could be recorded as being employed part-time.

The possibility of subjectivity creeping into the process is so pervasive that the BLS’s own “Handbook of Methods” has a full page explaining the limitations of its data, including how non-sampling errors get made, from “misinterpretation of the questions” to “errors made in the estimations of missing data.”

Bottom line: To suggest that the input to the BLS data-collection system is precise and bias-free is—well, let’s just say, overstated.
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He shouldn’t have stated it in such a conspiracy theory type manner, but I don’t think it’s exactly that crazy to question the numbers. They do sound unbelievable and are probably likely to get revised in the future.

So where exactly do the “Chicago guys” fit into the picture?

What this idiot is saying is that the 7.8 estimate of the UE numbers for September could be off by a marginal amount, but what he’s NOT acknowledging is that the previous month’s 8.1, or last year’s 8.5 could just as well have been too high to the same degree.

Well, like I just said, he shouldn’t have stated it in a conspiracy theory manner. I also don’t think it is relevant to his point that previous months could be off. He’s not questioning 7.8% in a vacuum. He is questioning the one (and two) month change. It doesn’t matter what the baseline is in that instance. The question boils down to questioning how we would possibly have the largest single month change in employment since 1983 when everyone agrees that we are in a slow recovery and not a single economist predicted anything even close to this.

Welch also said this:

Wow, even the NYT agrees with him! Those books are totally cooked, right?

Why don’t we go up to the beginning of that very article to see if Jack Welch blows his credibility completely out of the water before we worry about what passes his personal bullshit test:

Calling Jack Welch a fool is, in Jack Welch’s world, just like the Gulags.

Imagine a country where magazines are not allowed to question an opinion.

Imagine a country where you are free to make wild and unsubstantiated claims about the leader of the country, and other people are free to point at you and mock you.

I have no doubt he’d be a Commissar in Soviet Russia. Concentrations of wealth and power attract a certain histrionic type (see also Lord Carey claiming being called a bigot is the first step to concentration camps).

Jack Welch should go back to making grape juice

Meanwhile, Both Mark Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, and Doug Holtz-Eakin, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, agreed that the numbers were not manipulated.

That’s ok. Welch was only asking questions, anyway.