I’m sure that he was factoring in a hefty tip plus a few rounds for the Secret Service guys watching her.
We Americans don’t know that you shouldn’t lavishly tip (if at all) in France.
I’m sure that he was factoring in a hefty tip plus a few rounds for the Secret Service guys watching her.
We Americans don’t know that you shouldn’t lavishly tip (if at all) in France.
Um…maybe NOT Greenpeace or the VIllage Voice?
Oh my God… she’s actiing like… like… a KENNEDY!
Yep, I don’t see anything wrong with an afternoon on the lash with a couple of friends. Might be more interesting if she was getting wasted on decriminalised grass (maybe not in France just yet) and then married a woman in the evening…daddy might look even more confused than usual.
If you google Chelsea Clinton drunk, you’ll get several hits (some of them rather peculiar) about her recent binge in public.
Not that I give a rat’s arse or anything. Students drink.
Damn, that’s some unfortunate makeup.
The thing is that George Bush 2 makes a huge deal about being a recovering alcoholic.
:smack:
Oy! Now I get it. Silly me.
Yeah, capacitor, I didn’t know it was genetic.
Queen’s alum, eh, RJ?
For all those astonished/not astonished at the “two bottles at $225 each” - I feel I should point out that the source of these “facts” are a correspondant from <b>The Mirror</i> - a daily tabloid not known for their attention to facts when in search of a good story.
She probably drank a few beers, looked a bit squiffy and fell asleep.
ok, for a start, the source, the “London Mirror” is a rag of the lowest order, and I wouldnt believe a word that it prints. It is the lowest common denominator of journalism.
They probably took the price of one shot from the bar, and multiplied it be how many shots in the bar and then said that this was the price of the bottle.
Regardless, she was legal to drink where she was drinking.
What her father would say about it is another thing altogether.
Wow - even if I hadn’t used incorrect parenthesis tags, that still would’ve been wrong. I’m on form today.
multiplied by how many shots “in the bottle”, not at the bar.
My apologies.
Don’t apologize, Twisty. You think big. That’s good.
“Don’t gimme the fucking bottle. What does this damn bar go for?”
My reaction to this is, like most, “big deal”, but it got me thinking …
What if a younger teen, say 14 years old, had sex* in a country where the age of consent for sex is 14 yrs or lower?
*not in bar with three friends, obviously. That would be news.
The age at which people have sex is generally approved/disapproved of according to moral codes regarding the maturity and readiness of young people for what is very clearly an adult act. Having sex when you’re not ready can be psychologically harmful and objections to 14 year olds having sex are usually along those lines.
Drinking when you’re fourteen is generally approved/disapproved of because of the legal implications. Granted, there is the immaturity aspect as well, but I think this is along very different lines.
My point is: approval/disapproval of having sex and drinking alcohol, while often linked, are governed by different moral codes. You can’t really compare the two. Jenna Bush having a legal drink isn’t even in the same league as a fourteen year old having sex.
She’s twenty. She’s been a legal driver in her own country for four years, and she has been able to vote for two. The fact that the US of A doesn’t let anyone drink under 21 (yet they let them drive at 16?) doesn’t mean that other jurisdictions are less in that regard. In France, a twenty-year-old can drink whatever the hell she wants. There are no moral objections.
Let me put it this way: if a 16 year old Dutch exchange student goes to the US for a year, and obtains his drivers license there, is it immoral for him to do so?
Answer: no, it’s not. Of course, upon return his license is worth fuck-all because you have to be 18 to drive here, but that’s another matter.
I agree that US drinking laws are the shite. If the minimum age was still 18, as it was in most states up until…what was it? 1984?..no one would even think of Jenna Bush, except as the “less-bright of the twins.”
I do admit I have a problem with an American going to St.-Tropez and ordering tequila, though. I sure hope she wasn’t wearing a big ol’ cowboy hat and pointy boots and a TEXAS jersey and shouting “Yippee Kai Ai Oh!”
When in Rome, drink what the Romans are drinking, that’s MY motto.
Absolutely. I was just musing on what appeared to be the conflation of the moral vs legality aspect. The age of consent varies even around Europe, whilst we in the UK might feel uncomfortable about a 14 yr old having sex, in some other countries it would be no big deal, since it would not be illegal. Thus in the US, some might feel (or at least want to be seen to feel) unhappy about an under-21 having a drink. I guess commentators, politicians and the like have a tendancy to be holier-than-thou about moral and legal issues in their professional capacity, whatever they may privately feel?