Jenny McCarthy gets a talk show (and the antivax movement)

Can I play bass?

Porn-star Pestilence is a nasty beast is the album name, right? (P-sP being the name of the band?)

Yes.

Maybe.

Of course there are known side effects with vaccines. The vast majority are minor (i.e. swelling at the injection site, fever) or even if more alarming, rarely have long-term consequences. The consequences or a return of epidemic infectious diseases like measles and polio is a lot more scary.

What is the “whole host of interrelated factors including vaccines” and “more information we should be considering” that you are talking about?

Some prefer the road less traveled.

Zing!

If I don’t get to play bass you don’t get to use my copyright. ;p

Whatever appeal she might have had is totally destroyed by this vax shit. It’s kinda like the episode of the newlyweds where Jessica Simpson is trying to figure out if it’s tuna or chicken ‘cuz like, it says chicken of the sea, so is it, like, chicken or tuna?’ Absofuckinlute dealbreaker, I don’t care what you look like.

A theory about her ‘curing’ her son of autism.

In May 2007, McCarthy announced that her son was diagnosed with autism in 2005. The disorder of McCarthy’s son began with seizures and his improvement occurred after the seizures were treated; these symptoms are more consistent with Landau-Kleffner syndrome, which often is misdiagnosed as autism.[17]

the link

That wouldn’t sell very many books or get her on numerous talk shows.
I saw a couple months old magazine with an article about her tonight and it reminded me of another reason to hate her. When Jett Travolta died and every other celebrity was expressing sympathy she made a point to corral every reporter she could to say “That almost happened to ME!”. This article even quoted her as saying that the only difference between her and Jett was that when her son seizured and went into cardiac arrest they were able to revive him. So, she not only diagnosed Jett with autism but she thinks that to have a child almost die is just about the same thing as actually having a child die. Um, no, yes it’s scary but your child lived and that’s a huge difference, it’s nowhere near the same thing. But the important thing is that she reminded people of herself and her son and her misguided cause because, god forbid, someone else with a sick child should get any attention or sympathy.
I think the only way to shut Jenny up is for an even bigger celebrity to come out and debunk all her crap. Too bad Oprah missed the boat there.

Instead of accepting everything your nice doctor may say about your newborn’s vaccination needs one might want consider such information as an alternative vaccine schedule to spread out the injectibles, screening infants for susceptibility for adverse reactions, and family history of chronic disease.

I don’t think those questioning the safety of some vaccines are antivaxx, they are just not willing to be a statistic for the sake of the herd. Not every new vaccine as been a success, remember rotoshield pulled off the market because of severe intestical blockages in a number of infants?

WOuld you take the Anthrax vaccine? Were you a Vioxx user?

But the vaccines in question are not new, nor are they untested. Family history and health issues ARE taken into consideration by doctors. Hell, the fact that my nephew is a transplant patient is taken into consideration by our pediatrician, so that we don’t expose Jack to diseases via the live-virus vaccinations my kids receive (now that they are older, the only one in question is the chicken pox booster, which they will finally get this summer when they will not be in contact with Jack for several weeks).

Kids don’t get vaccinated “for the sake of the herd.” They get vaccinated to protect them from potentially fatal diseases. These vaccines are safe and do not cause autism spectrum disorders. Ever. If you “think” that there is evidence out there that hasn’t been examined yet, then please feel free to share specifics with the group.

The plural of anecdote is not data. Repeat as needed.

“Mother’s intuition” is a powerful thing, and I firmly believe that- it’s what saved my nephew’s life before his transplant emergency. But shrill, terrified, uneducated, taken-advantage-of-by-scare-tactics parents are the least reliable decision-makers I can think of.

What information should be considered? There are some people who have medical conditions which make it riskier than the average to vaccinate - and in those cases they generally don’t. For anyone without a condition that makes them vulnerable to problems associated for vaccines, what sort of decision is there? Being vaccinated is clearly the way to go.

Herd immunity means we have free riders. If you can’t take a vaccine because you have a medical condition - then you get protected by it and everything works great. But if you’re a parent that either has decided not to vaccinate your kids or is too irresponsible to have gotten around to it - your bad decision hasn’t made your kid suffer in the past because the vast majority of parents are responsible enough to vaccinate their kids and so we have herd immunity.

But as vaccination rates decline, we’re going to lose herd immunity. Already in areas where there’s a higher than average rate of people who refuse to vaccinate we’re seeing outbreaks. Now the people who legiitimately don’t take vaccines for medical reasons get screwed by the people who won’t vaccinate because they’re paranoid idiots who listen to people like McCarthy. The people that suffer here are innocent - kids with stupid parents or people whose condition prevents them from taking vaccines.

I would like to play drums, please. :stuck_out_tongue:

What if there were a vaccine against Autism? What then?

Ooh, maybe you should go on McCarthy’s show, pose this question, and see if you can get her head to explode Scanners-style.

Let us know beforehand so we can DVR it.

I doubt she’ll get many pharmaceutical companies to buy advertising time on her show.

No way! That might cause measles!

Regards,
Shodan

thanks for your anecdotal story about the careful decision you have made with regards to vaccinations and the medically fragile.

My comments related to informed decision making when scheduling vaccines not leaping to conclusions about autism and vaccines, I realize this is a hot button for you and i hear ya.

I’d like to see a vaccine against rampant stupidity first. More people suffer from that than do autism.

Ha! Excellent.

She can make up for that with ads from fly-by-night labs that do “toxin” testing, practitioners who push chelation and other quacky treatments for autism, and dealers in useless supplements.