I haven’t seen this view expressed anywhere at any time. I’ve seen people make the economic version - interpreting facts to suit a position, but never a claim this grand.
You’ll remember 52% rejected the economic case made ad nauseum, that was largely because it missed the point - by several magnitudes.
If you intend to maintain the bogus conflation of economic migrants and genuine asylum seekers you’ll be doing the same.
That’s kind of my point. Nobody in UK politics or media seems capable of arguing that immigration might be a good thing. Which is odd, because it is.
I say nobody - Anna Soubry is good on this:
No, no, no. The EU referendum wasn’t about immigration, it was about sovereignty and trade with the world, remember?
Joking aside (because obviously the Leave campaign with its scare stories of 75 million Turks was absolutely trying to whip up bogus concerns about immigration) it is still an *enormous *stretch to claim that every single one of the 52% was anti-immigration, or even that the economic case for immigration was a major part of the Remain campaign.
Not at all. Economic migrants are different from asylum seekers - and have a positive effect on Britain, not just economically but also socially.
Can we just impose Anna Soubry as leader of the country and be done with it? I swear she talks more sense than all the other politicians put together.
Looking at the party conference, I suspect we’ve just completed the coronation of Queen Theresa.
Up about 300,000, then. Got it - thanks.
Corbyn doing a shadow cabinet reshuffle.
Not sure why he’s sacking the chief whip.
I can take a lot but Diane fucking Abbott? She’s not fit to be in charge of the gnomes at Homebase.
Tony Blair hints at a return to politics. I think he should. Someone has to take on Corbyn. Someone has to stand up for sanity with May’s new anti immigrant race to the right and hard Brexit. The Pound experienced a flash crash overnight.
I now understand why Andrew Neil says her name with such open incredulity, as I keep doing the same every time I hear the news.
And I’m sure he’ll be greeted with all the openness and warmth he deserves. By which I mean they’ll throw him into a fiery open pit. Even (or especially) compared to Corbyn, Blair is not popular amongst the Labour faithful.
Now that Thatcher is dead, Blair is the recipient for the left’s two minutes hate. He is despised.
I don’t go in for this ritual myself, but no one can argue with the Iraq war being rightly seen as his epitaph. A colossal error that has eclipsed everything else he accomplished - there is no way back.
He sums up the current rabble with characteristic clarity, mind:
The reason why the position of these guys is not one that will appeal to an electorate is not because they are too left, or because they are too principled. It’s because they are too wrong.
The reason their policies shouldn’t be supported isn’t because they’re wildly radical, it’s because they are not. They don’t work. They are actually a form of conservatism. This is the point about them. What they are offering is a mixture of fantasy and error.
From here: Tony Blair says his return to British politics is an open question | Tony Blair | The Guardian
You’re giving a rather mixed message here. Is the hatred against Blair the irrationality of the baying mob against a cartoonish strawman, or is it legitimate anger against a demonstrable scoundrel? Do the mob scorn him because he is Scapegoat of the Month, or do they despise him because he led the country into a war on false pretexts whilst carrying out an extremely dirty campaign of slander and discreditation against those who pointed out the falseness of those pretexts? And does this only apply to Blair? Are they at least permitted to scorn Campbell and Mandelson?
Or is there a statute of limitations on anger against unpunished malfeasance? When do people lose the right to complain about injustice?
I despise Blair with the best of them but there is no doubt his administrations were outstanding periods for both NHS and school investment. In particular, what’s happened with London state schools, now understood and supported by even centre right Tories*, is bloody fantastic. But Iraq will always overshadow everything, as it should.
Yeah and it shouldn’t be the political equivalent of a poisoned chalice. There’s plenty others who would be able to do it.
Labour MP Jamie Reed is going to resign from Parliament and others may also leave before the next general election in 2020. Perhaps some more by-election losses will finally be the impetus to push Corbyn out.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/jeremy-corbyn/news/81914/excl-labour-mps-say-jamie-reeds
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I agree with Tony Blair in this: Power is won on the battlefield or in elections, not by “direct action” and street demonstrations per se. (Demonstrations might inspire voter turnout, however, so maybe don’t knock them too hard.)
That said, the 1990’s “Third Way” movement needs to be knocked down and kicked in the testicles repeatedly. Social democracy was already a “third way” between Marxism and* laissez-faire.* Blair & Clinton were more like Reagan with better fiscal policies and some vague gestures toward QUILTBAG rights; in short, they were really classical liberals. That’s not a Third Way; that’s just the old right-of-center–the right wing industrial policy, run with better math than we’d get from a deluded Reagan type, but perhaps worse economics than we’d have gotten from a pre-1980 conservative. 
Owen Smith is still receiving death threats for attempting to challenge Corbyn for the Labour leadership. Looks like Corbyn attracts some of the same crazy far left as Bernie Sanders did and they’re willing to threaten violence against anyone who opposes their Messiah.
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Corbyn will be pushed out when there is a better alternative and not before. Owen Smith was not that alternative.
Labour could fall below 150 seats
Wonderful, at a critical time for the United Kingdom, there is no credible opposition.
Both UKIP and the Lib Dems are trying to muscle in. The SNP have already taken over in Scotland. Or should I say that the Tories have taken over from Labour in Scotland?
I’ve said it before, cometh the hour, cometh the Dan
He is perfect, and yet languishes in obscurity. I guess people like him have determined that the only way to defeat Corbyn is for him to be extinguished by the general electorate, so that Labour will eventually come out of it’s self induced coma.