Where does the word prove occur in the OP? Please re-read it and try again. I can be convinced. I’m very reasonable in that regard.
It’s odd that people are focusing on Disney as some kind of proof that Jews control the media. Fact is, there’s far LESS Jewish power and influence in Hollywood than there used to be!
In the “golden age” of Hollywood, the 1930s and 1940s, virtually ALL the major studio heads were Jews (the Warner brothers, Louis B. Mayer, Sam Goldwyn, Harry Cohn, etc.). And yet, in those days, it was very rare to see mainstream films that dealt with Jewish issues at all. Indeed, Jewish studios were FAR more likely to churn out films presenting idealized Catholic priests than they were to make films sympathetic to Jewish causes. One of the very few films of that era that acknowledged the existence of anti-semitism was “Gentleman’s Agreement,” and ironically, that film was green-lighted by Darryl Zanuck- the only important studio head of his time who WASN’T Jewish!
If Jews didn’t use the one medium they DID control to push a Jewish agenda, it’s hard to imagine how they could be doing it now, when there’s NO medium over which they have comparable control.
Is it true that only the goyim open up their new magazines and have a dozen subscription cards fall out into their laps?
Cause if it is, it’d be worth converting to Judaism.
The same difficulties exist for “convince” as for “prove”.
One cannot “convince” someone of the non-existence of a conspiracy. Not without the gift of omnipotence. How can anyone be sure that the “convincer” is not a dupe of the conspiracy him or herself? How can one be sure that the “convincer” simply does not know of the details, is not part of the ‘inner circle’?
That is why the burden of proving, or convincing, others of the existence of any particular conspiracy is rightly on those who wish to demonstrate said conspiracy in fact exists. Shifting the burden onto people to disprove or unconvince simply is a non-starter.
I cannot prove, or convince, anyone that Jews are not controlling your bodily fluids, as I know nothing about it. Nor do I have any inside information about the JFK assasination, or the existence of paranormal powers. Those who argue for those various things surely bear the burden of demonstrating they exist. The rest of us do not have the burden of demonstrating they do not exist.
“Is it true that only the goyim open up their new magazines and have a dozen subscription cards fall out into their laps?”
—Damn! He’s on to us! Now we will have to kill him, and use his blood to make cK Calvin Klein perfume inserts!
Yes, did you know that nearly all the staff on the Jewish Times, Jewish News and the Jerusalem Post are Jewish?
Conincidence?
Unlikely.
I fail to see how my ability to isolate nuggets of fact out of a steaming pile of hate makes me ignorant.
Maybe you called me ignorant because you do not have those analytical skills.
I fail to see how your ability to isolate nuggets of fact out of a steaming pile of hate makes you ignorant either, considering that you’ve shown quite clearly that you’re utterly and totally unable to isolate nuggets of fact from anywhere. As a quick word of advice, let me just say that anybody who insists on repeatedly posting links and flames that quite clearly demonstrate that they are barely even literate should probably not attack the intelligence of other posters who respond in a mature and rational style, because those who do so will usually only embarrass themselves further.
Have a nice day.
2Thick might consider helping us all out by explaining just what s/he thinks the specific dangers are in “jewish control of the media”, hopefully with one or two examples demonstrating a pro-jewish slant in the programming ESPN and Nickleodeon (since these networks are specifically mentioned in the link as being under jewish control).
In addition, I would call on 2Thick to name a single non-jewish person he or she is aware of who has been turned down for a job in television, radio publishing or news reporting, in favor of a jewish candidate and specifically because the successful candidate was jewish; or to name any employee of a media organization who was fired from their job specifically for refusing to adhere to a presumed jewish agenda. Names, dates and locations, if you please.
So you flame me for flaming.
Ironic, eh?
You tell people to filter out the hate, then refer them to a piece of crap that suggests that the Holocaust is a “tale”? Words fail me, for once.
I work in “the media” and I could probably concoct a similar “argument”, with lists of names, that the media is “controlled” by Scots, or English, or Australians, or Indians…take your pick. As someone else pointed out, you would not be able to “prove” any of these conspiracy theories wrong, that’s how conspiracy theories work.
The media is controlled by people. Get real.
I’m sorry. I must have missed your isolated ‘nuggets of fact’. Please point them out to me. I see next to nothing in your link that is worthy of debate, but I’ll try and find some questions to ask you anyway.
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How does the fact that Disney is run by a Jewish ‘control freak’ perpetuates the Jewish ‘agenda’?
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How did Michael Eisner “take over” Disney in 1984? It is a public company and Eisner doesn’t have controlling interest, so how did he manage it?
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Doesn’t the fact that the site you linked to makes its anti-Zionist POV clear give you any pause that it may be biased?
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How does Viacom being the “largest single purveyor of race-mixing propaganda to White teenagers and sub-teens in America and Europe” have anything to do with the so-called Jewish conspiracy.
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Does the Jewish conspiracy only apply to the US? Or does western Europe figure in this as well?
2Thick, if you want to have a reasonable debate, answer these questions and ask a few of your own and we can move on from that. The wrong thing to do is get hackles up when the validity of your cite is questioned.
Yes and no, IMO. Take a look at the hypothesis offered by Florentine_Pogen which, as I read it, eschews the “Jewish control” and “conspiracy” theories and merely posits that Jews, like any ethnic group, acts as a special interest. Surely the “X as a special interest group” hypothesis, if true, would leave different empirical artifacts from the “X controls the media” hypothesis. If Pogen were to isolate one or more of those artifacts, in essence showing that the special interest hypothesis better fits the facts, while at the same time explaining contrary evidence (though I have no idea what that would be) I would probably be convinced. It really wouldn’t constitute a proof since we could hem & haw and dismiss the evidence with all sorts of convoluted arguments if need be. But it probably would be pretty convincing.
Sorry about being snotty before. It’s easy to be rude when I’m not talking face-to-face. My failure.
While I agree that 2Thick has done a poor job of making his case, please don’t confuse anti-zionist with anti-Jewish. Here’s some photos of Orthodox Jews burning the Israeli flag.
Unless it’s anti-Elders of Zion type anti-zionist, in which case we can probably agree–what with that being a fraud and all.
Of course being anti-Israel doesn’t make you an Jew-hater and dragging up old Jew-hater myths may just be a matter of being naieve . . . on the other hand, stuff like wringing one’s hands over the Palestinians and ‘wondering’ about Jewish cover-ups of the ‘crimes’ of the IDF might well provide the most wonderful cover for some good-old-fashioned Jew baiting, don’t you think?
Yep. I imagine that alot of Jew haters are also conservative christian types (I just saw a History Channel documentary about how American neo-nazis use Jesus & Hitler to further their cause), which must put them in a bind. On the one hand, they need Israel to take back the borders it held in antiquity for prophesy purposes, on the other hand they hate Jews and want them to convert.
I think you find they get around that set of contradictions with the farce known as ‘Christian Identity’.
I’m not familiar with that.
Most of the staff of the Christian Science Monitor are Jewish as well.
Devious!
js_africanus: The Christian Identity Movement consists of relugiously-inspired racist nutjobs who believe that white Anglo-saxons are the real descendants of the ancient Israelites and are therefore the true Biblical “Chosen People”, not the Jews ( who are descendants of a union between Eve and Satan ). All other races are mere soulless “mud people”.
- Tamerlane