Jewish identity vers. white identity

The UNGA certainly made some noise about it, but they contributed not one soldier, not one tin of food, not one medic. They no more created Israel (which wasn’t established along Partition lines anyways) than they would cause the sun to rise if the UNGA issued a resolution stating that the sun would rise tomorrow. The debate, as well, focused on whether or not any nascent Israeli state could not only fend for itself economically, but militarily. The world was war-weary and in no mood to commit blood to treasure to carve up the Levant.

What happened is that the Mandate power withdrew (with more than a little preferential treatment for the Arab powers preceding its withdrawal), there was a war that erupted, and the Jews of the region created Israel. After that point many nations of the UN certainly recognized Israel, but they did not create it by any means.

There was nothing ‘proven’ : I responded to two statements “as a single religious is fundamental to the laws of that land” and to the statement " Try to even VISIT Saudi Arabia if you’re not Muslim!"

I made no distortions despite your attacks as is your habit that is well known to abuse anyone who is not agreeing. It it not debating it is

I do not need any hints. A visa is required to visit the Saudi kingdom. This is something that is understood. And I have quoted the phrase i reacted to. unless of course you think that the question of visa has nothing to do with visiting a country that applies visas to all visitors (except I think the GCC)?

To visit the Kingdom as a non-Muslim if one is not trying to do a religious visit, a pilgrimage, it is not a problem that is specific to religion.

There are millions of non muslims who live and work in the Kingdom and non Muslims go for business all the time. for pleasure is hard to imagine, but a visit to the kingdom for making desert trekking I do not think has any problem. It must be demonstrated it is a problem, since it is not of any doubt that there are big numbers of non muslims visiting and working in the Kingdom, and there is not evidence that besides the visits to the holy sites that there is any problem for non muslims to get visas.

It is you who makes gross assertions and then only abuses anyone who does not agree with you.

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This is just confirmation of what I have written. But you try to blow smoke and disguise that you only know the subject by certain sources.

I already called you on this bullshit dodge. Evidently when you’re beaten on the facts, all you can is vomit forth fictitious claims of “prejudice”. Of course, as already pointed out, Saudi Arabia doesn’t give out tourist visas these days. Visas are not issues for visiting, as Dex correctly stated. They are issued for business and work, to visit close relatives, and for transit and religious visits by Muslims.

you caught not any mistake. Not one. You have invented attacks on disortions and on straw men.

What did you cite, you cite to a personal law issue in the other message, and you wrap this in hostile abuse. But the personal law is not major part of legal code. In fact you cite to a specific question of custody law, which is if you know French or Arabic -I think you do not at all - you know is a judicial dispute area, but the personal law (I must again note that since you did not known this term we can know that you only know these things from certain American sources of a certian kind of politics that is related to some country of your interest).

It is clear that the law of Syria, it has no real source in Islam, outside of the personal law. And for the personal law

For the people who want to read correct information on the sources of law, the wikipedia page (French) gives good sources. As anyone can see, the primary sources of law are not religious law.

no, you keep insulting and attacking people who show that you are basing your comments on information that is not correct or is distorted. Why your abuse is tolerated, I do not understand.

We can let your beliefs stand against reality, if you really want. Or you could just admit error, clear up your ignorance, and stop claiming “prejudice” and"ignorance" every single time you’re shown to be wrong about yet another thing. Just for a smattering:
-you claimed that the fact that Syria’s president is legally obligated to be a Muslim doesn’t show that “a single religious belief is fundamental to the laws of that land.”
-you claimed that the fact that Iraqi law makes it illegal to create any laws which are in opposition to Islam doesn’t show “a single religious belief is fundamental to the laws of that land.”
-You claimed that Dex was somehow wrong to point out that non-Muslims would have a massively difficult time visiting Saudi Arabia, when in fact there are no tourist visas at all and unless you’re working there, visiting family or a Muslim on religious pilgrimage, you can’t get into the country to visit.

I’m not sure if you’ve made a correct statement in this thread, to be honest.
Feel free to call that prejudiced and post a rant about American media, or something.

And here, of course, you admit that of yep, you were distorting Dex’s comments. He was talking about visiting Saudi Arabia, which is impossible as they do not give tourist visas and you either need to be there on business or a Muslim visiting for religious reasons. In point of fact, your talk about “visas” was either ignorance-based or obfuscatory as there are no tourist visas given, so Dex was 100% correct in nothing that it’s a bitch to visit Saudi Arabia if one wanted to and wasn’t on business or a Muslim.

Except, of course it is, as Muslims are the only ones allowed to visit for reasons other than business. But that’s okay, we’ll just chalk this up to another error you refuse to admit.

Ah, a delightful word salad with a gibberish vinaigrette.
Of course, this is yet another error you refuse to admit and cloak in nonsense about personal attacks. Yet again, in the nation where the president is obligated, by force of law, to be a Muslim you claimed that the Law of Personal Status was somehow differentiated for each religion. Naturally, you ignored yet another area where your ignorance caused you to speak in error as, already ited by me, “With respect to custody laws, all Syrians, including Christians, are governed by Sharia-based personal status laws”. I’ve lost track of your errors, is that up to an even half dozen yet?

Except, of course, when you cite it as evidence of your claims. As soon as it’s shown that you’re wrong, well, it’s not really important so let’s ignore it. Mmm hmm. And, of course, this is in the context of you crafting a palpably lame dodge in order to avoid addressing the fact that, by law, the Syrian President must be a Muslim and that does indeed evince that “a single religious belief is fundamental to the laws of that land.” I think you even know you’re wrong, which is why you’re now reduced to citing not just wikipedia, but wikipedia in a foreign language.

Yet more nonsense babble about dastardly American sources, and more bullshit about how I didn’t “know the term” when, as I cited, you were using the wrong term and I had to correct you. We’re well above half a dozen of your unretracted errors, at this point I’m afraid. Why not just admit error and, ya know, fix your position? Or claim more persecution, rant about ‘American sources’ and imaginary ‘prejudice’.

World’s tiniest violin.
Playing a dirge.
Very sad.
Tears.

I have no more to add. I can only say that I beleive it is clear that you only are doing ad hominems and straw mens. I am astonished that AK84 comment gets some warning like this.

I already pointed out that you’re using the word “strawman” to mean something that’s idiosyncratic to you, but the idea that I’ve cast ad homs is an absurdity. I have not claimed that you were wrong because of who you are, I have pointed out again and again how the facts show that you’re wrong.
Of course, evidently what’s good for the goose aint good for the gander, as you started with nonsense about “prejudice” and “ignorance” and don’t like your own medicine being returned to you.

Old Irish joke: “If only we were heathen so we could all live together like good Christians!”