"Jews totally run Hollywood"

[Raygun99]

It’s just not a topic that people want to spend their entertainment dollars and time on. Think about all the Iraq War films that flop. It’s a depressing topic, and few depressing movies do well.

[Jackmannii]

@Polerius

Even in the absence of a cabal or formally organized group to control Hollywood, does the fact that most if not all studios are run by a certain ethnic minority have an impact on the types of movies made?

I think you’ll have a very hard time making this case.

What overwhelmingly influences the types of movies that are made is the same factor that determines what any business churns out - the potential for making money. Themes that make for popular movies often conflict with beliefs held by liberals (which a majority of Jews have historically been). For instance, Gone With The Wind and many other films portray a romanticized view of the Old South leading up to and during the Civil War. Lots of movies (the Dirty Harry series are examples) glorify violent cops and downplay civil rights concerns, views that are popular among a large segment of the movie-viewing public. These are not themes you’d expect to especially resonate among Jews. Hollywood has been responsible for numerous movies in recent years that show corporations and banks as evil. Wall Street and its successor have been hits. Since Them Jews run big business, banking and Wall Street (at least in the minds of many), wouldn’t the movie moguls want to soft-pedal this stuff? It’s not happening.

As to the Mideast conflict, probably the endless nature of it is seen as turning off the public, there’s huge potential for offending various segments of the population and many “message” films have bombed in recent years. It’s not surprising that the studios haven’t produced “Gaza: The Sequel”.

Lastly, I’m really pissed off that I run Hollywood and yet can’t even get a measly discount on theater tickets.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Polerius

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

There are successful Jews in Hollywood. That does not mean that “the Jews” run Hollywood. There is no cabal or conspiracy.

@Simplicio

Well, there’s two ways to read “The Jews control Hollywood”. One is simply that a lot of higher up execs in Hollywood are Jewish, which seems pretty undeniably true.

The other is that there’s some sort of organized group called “the Jews” whose members are at least somewhat formally organized to control Hollywood and protect each others interests.

Even in the absence of a cabal or formally organized group to control Hollywood, does the fact that most if not all studios are run by a certain ethnic minority have an impact on the types of movies made?

I guess that would explain why we get saturated with Christmas movies and Christmas themes on television every year.

As an extreme example, are there any movies by the big studios that portray Jewish people in a negative light and the Palestinians in a positive light? (I’m not saying that there should be such movies, just that there have to be some people who believe the Palestinians are in the right and would like to make a movie about it, but face getting their project greenlighted by a major studio)

I think the reason you don’t see this has more to do with economics than ideology (though I guess I can concede that Jewish studio heads probably aren’t very eager to make Jew-bashing movies). The most significant motivator in Hollywood is the Bottom Line. Movies about the plight of Palestinians don’t make money. Why make a movie like that when you can make 40 times the gross with a 3D cartoon about talking animals? That’s where the money is.

Besides the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, are there any aspects of Jewish identity & culture that come through in the types of movies that are made and the types of movies that are not made? For example, if Jews, statistically are more secular and more liberal than the population at large, does that translate into what gets put into film form?

Hollywood tends to avoid taking hard political or religious stances as a rule because it divides audiences and hurts the Bottom Line. To the degree that Hollywood portrays religion, Christian themes (however squishy and generalized they tend to be) dominate by a wide margin. I do not see very many movies or TV shows pushing “secularism.”

To summarize, even in the absence of a cabal, or concerted effort to “run things”, the fact that most studios are headed by people from a single ethnic minority could have an impact that would be similar to the case when there was a concerted effort to run things.

No, because the Bottom Line is the great equalizer. The positions of the studio heads are dependent on profit. They are slaves to it. Regardless of what they may feel religiously or politically, their product has to serve their audiences, and American audiences like talking animals and superheroes.

[suranyi]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

@Polerius

Even in the absence of a cabal or formally organized group to control Hollywood, does the fact that most if not all studios are run by a certain ethnic minority have an impact on the types of movies made?

I guess that would explain why we get saturated with Christmas movies and Christmas themes on television every year.

I think the reason you don’t see this has more to do with economics than ideology (though I guess I can concede that Jewish studio heads probably aren’t very eager to make Jew-bashing movies). The most significant motivator in Hollywood is the Bottom Line. Movies about the plight of Palestinians don’t make money. Why make a movie like that when you can make 40 times the gross with a 3D cartoon about talking animals? That’s where the money is.

Hollywood tends to avoid taking hard political or religious stances as a rule because it divides audiences and hurts the Bottom Line. To the degree that Hollywood portrays religion, Christian themes (however squishy and generalized they tend to be) dominate by a wide margin. I do not see very many movies or TV shows pushing “secularism.”

To summarize, even in the absence of a cabal, or concerted effort to “run things”, the fact that most studios are headed by people from a single ethnic minority could have an impact that would be similar to the case when there was a concerted effort to run things.

No, because the Bottom Line is the great equalizer. The positions of the studio heads are dependent on profit. They are slaves to it. Regardless of what they may feel religiously or politically, their product has to serve their audiences, and American audiences like talking animals and superheroes.

In fact, until the 1970s, there were hardly any Jewish characters in the movies, despite the huge number of Jews in the industry. So it makes no sense to ask if they were portrayed well or badly. They pretty much didn’t exist at all.

[Stoid]

• Is he wrong?
  Nope.
  As my best friend (Jewish) and I were sitting in my living room in Hollywood last night discussing the whole thing and laughing our asses off at how stupid and wonderful it is that Sanchez got his ass handed to him for telling the truth.

[Magiver]

@John_Mace

semantic Semitic trap

dibs on the band name.

[Polerius]

@Stoid

• Is he wrong?
  Nope.
  As my best friend (Jewish) and I were sitting in my living room in Hollywood last night discussing the whole thing and laughing our asses off at how stupid and wonderful it is that Sanchez got his ass handed to him for telling the truth.

Care to explain why it’s “wonderful” that someone lost their job for telling the truth?

Or was Sanchez such an idiot that whatever reason was used to fire him was justified?
(I never watched his show)

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

He wasn’t fired for telling the truth. He was fired for damaging his own on-air marketability with a ridiculous antisemitic rant.

[Voyager]

@suranyi

In fact, until the 1970s, there were hardly any Jewish characters in the movies, despite the huge number of Jews in the industry. So it makes no sense to ask if they were portrayed well or badly. They pretty much didn’t exist at all.

Very true. Consider the Dick van Dyke show. Here we have a comedy writer’s room, patterned after Your Show of Shows, with token Morey Amsterdam. He was at least Jewish in one show, where he got bar mitzvahed. It was kind of like shows a few years ago that noted that some character was gay, to the surprise of no one.

And despite the massive amounts of anti-Semitism before WW II, Hollywood only did a movie on it (Gentlemen’s Agreement) after the war when no one could object vocally.

[Polerius]

@Jackmannii

Lastly, I’m really pissed off that I run Hollywood and yet can’t even get a measly discount on theater tickets.

Humor aside, when men ruled society (i.e. were in all the top spots), the fact that some poor shmoe in a small town in Iowa, in response to a feminist telling him that men run everything, could truthfully say that he isn’t seeing any personal benefit from the fact that men run everything, doesn’t mean that men were not running everything. The feminist’s statement was true and women did see adverse repercussions from that fact, even if not every man benefited from it.

[Polerius]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

He wasn’t fired for telling the truth. He was fired for damaging his own on-air marketability with a ridiculous antisemitic rant.

I mostly agree with you. It’s just that, for Stoid and his/her friend, Sanchez was “fired for telling the truth” and they found that “wonderful”, and I was wondering why they thought it was wonderful.

[Ellis_Aponte_Jr]

I am often kept up at night by the disturbing thought that Southern Californians run Hollywood.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

Good question.

Actually, I don’t really know whether Sanchez has antisemitism in his heart, but his rant touched on stereotypes that are better left alone, and his marketability was going to be damaged regardless of what he actually intended.

[Polerius]

@suranyi

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

No, because the Bottom Line is the great equalizer. The positions of the studio heads are dependent on profit. They are slaves to it. Regardless of what they may feel religiously or politically, their product has to serve their audiences, and American audiences like talking animals and superheroes.

In fact, until the 1970s, there were hardly any Jewish characters in the movies, despite the huge number of Jews in the industry. So it makes no sense to ask if they were portrayed well or badly. They pretty much didn’t exist at all.

Even if they focus on the bottom line, and even if they couldn’t put themselves in movies due to antisemitism, did the selection of movies made still reflect what they wanted to make?

e.g. The US was at war with both Japan and Germany during WWII, and yet, there are tons more movies with Nazis than with the Japanese. Even after all these years, Hollywood is still making movies with Nazis in them (I believe the latest one was Inglourious Basterds). I can’t remember the last movie I saw about WWII and the Japanese. One reason could be that Nazis make for better movie villains, or that the scale of the Holocaust makes anything the Japanese did pale in comparison, but another reason could be that the studio heads & producers wanted to make sure everyone knew what horrible things the Nazis did, since it was the Nazis and not the Japanese who killed millions of Jews.

[Captain_Midnight]

About **95% of the mainstream media on television and film **is ran by Jews.

News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish)

Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish)

Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish)

Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (Dutch Jew)

Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish)

CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel),

MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish)

NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish)

Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner

Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd

Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios

Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc

Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric

Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited

George W. Bodenheimer ESPN

Viacom Sumner Redstone (born Murray Rothstien)

Speilberg, Katzenberg and Geffen DREAMWORKS SKG (every Hollywood studio in Hollywood is ran by Jews, and has been since the inception of the motion picture industry. (Goldwyn-Mayer for example)

ABC - Leonard Goldenson

NBC - David Sarnoff and then his son, Robert Sarnoff

CBS - William Paley (dead) and then Laurence Tisch

This is really amazing considering that Jews only make up about 14 million people Worldwide, with 7million living in the United States. Blacks make up over 6 times the population of Jews. Why and how did this small minority of people get a stranglehold of this?

Because there are so many Jews in the MSM, every night we hear only their side of the news concerning Israel and the Middle East. The propaganda that they spew about Muslims and Arabs being evil while they are innocent victims of persecution. Anyone who disagrees with them are labled anti-semites, bigots and whatever. If someone points out that the Israeli Defence Force slaughters and napalms Palestinian victims, they would be tarred and feathered, even if the truth was in their hands.

Isreali war atrocities in pictures. **Not safe for work **or for anyone who cannot watch the site of dead babies, killed by American tax dollars. I just hate seeing dead babies on my dime. Now do you understand WTF 9/11 was about?
http://giwersworld.org/israel/more-pics/

Here is a picture of the cowardly IDF dropping napalm on a school. A children’s school. The one place where a child should be safe. Look down the webpage to “Hello!”

Student Association of Writing and Rhetoric

Caption: In less than three weeks, Israel has slaughtered at least 1200 Palestinians in Gaza, injuring 5000 others. Schools, hospitals and UN compounds have been shelled with white phosphorous, a substance many times more deadly than napalm.

An ongoing, months-long blockade has only resulted in the systematic starvation and impoverishment of the Gazan population, one living in captivity with no hope of escape, and no access to basic human necessities such as food, medical supplies and electricity.

The Jewish MSM hates the internet, because we don’t have to buy into the lie and we can believe what we want and see both sides of the coin and get a good idea of who is right and who isn’t. Joe Lieberman, Jewish Senator from Connecticut wants a plan to be able to shut down the internet in times of “national crisis”. (by invading Iran for example and the mosterious fallout from that.)

[Polerius]

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

Actually, I don’t really know whether Sanchez has antisemitism in his heart, but his rant touched on stereotypes that are better left alone, and his marketability was going to be damaged regardless of what he actually intended.

Agreed.

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

I think you nailed it with the Nazis simply being more cinematic villains and the Holocaust being an unavoidably compelling subject to do movies about, but there were also big budget movies about the Japanese and the Pacific theater - The Sands of Iwo Jima, Tora! Tora! Tora!. Even more recently, we’ve had Pearl Habor, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters from Iwo Jima and HBO’s The Pacific series.

[Der_Trihs]

@Polerius

@suranyi

In fact, until the 1970s, there were hardly any Jewish characters in the movies, despite the huge number of Jews in the industry. So it makes no sense to ask if they were portrayed well or badly. They pretty much didn’t exist at all.

Even if they focus on the bottom line, and even if they couldn’t put themselves in movies due to antisemitism, did the selection of movies made still reflect what they wanted to make?

e.g. The US was at war with both Japan and Germany during WWII, and yet, there are tons more movies with Nazis than with the Japanese. Even after all these years, Hollywood is still making movies with Nazis in them (I believe the latest one was Inglourious Basterds). I can’t remember the last movie I saw about WWII and the Japanese. One reason could be that Nazis make for better movie villains, or that the scale of the Holocaust makes anything the Japanese did pale in comparison, but another reason could be that the studio heads & producers wanted to make sure everyone knew what horrible things the Nazis did, since it was the Nazis and not the Japanese who killed millions of Jews.

It probably has something to do with the fact that it’s easier in California to round up a whole bunch of people who can pass for German than it is to round up large numbers of people who can pass for Japanese. There is also the theory that blames racism; the idea that most Americans never got as outraged over Japanese atrocities because we considered them inferior in the first place and so didn’t expect any better; they were inadvertently playing into our stereotypes.

[newcomer]

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[Stoid]

@Polerius

@Diogenes_the_Cynic

He wasn’t fired for telling the truth. He was fired for damaging his own on-air marketability with a ridiculous antisemitic rant.

I mostly agree with you. It’s just that, for Stoid and his/her friend, Sanchez was “fired for telling the truth” and they found that “wonderful”, and I was wondering why they thought it was wonderful.

He didn’t rant against Jews! PUHleeze…

It’s wonderful because he sucks.