Jim Bouton's passing, and the Billy Graham rule

Jim Bouton was a MLB pitcher who in 1971 wrote “Ball Four” the first tell-all sports book. Previously, sport books were whitewashes, portraying the athletes as grown up Boy Scouts who went to bed early and never drank anything stronger than milk. Bouton talked openly about the players’ boozing and girl-chasing. A memorable quote from a player who was asked by a pretty girl whether he was married: “Yeah. But I’m not a fanatic about it”.

For revealing all this, Bouton was hated vociferously by most players, and not a few fans. In the “Mad Guide to Political Types”, Mad magazine asserted that conservatives were “disgusted with Jim Bouton”, and tellingly, not the ballplayers who were behaving immorally.

Bouton’s recent passing came around the same time as the news that two candidates in Mississippi’s gubernatorial race practiced the so-called Billy Graham rule: a man never allows himself to be alone with a woman other than his wife. Some have criticized the rule as archaic and sexist, and others have suggested that a such a rule might really be for show, to cover up previous and ongoing transgressions.

I was reminded of a passage in “Ball Four” in which Bouton recounted that his team had a similar rule. While on the road, players were not allowed to be seen in hotel lobbies with any woman other than their wife. A player had recently breached the rule, and protested that the woman was his sister. Management clarified that even sisters were covered by the rule. Bouton rolled his eyes at the hypocrisy in the face of all the open philandering. He noted, “They didn’t say anything about good-looking mothers. I’d better check - I’ve got one”.

If you haven’t read “Ball Four”, it’s a great read.

RIP Jim Bouton.

PS: I owe my SDMB screen name to Bouton: after writing “Ball Four”, Bouton retired from baseball, but made a comeback years later. Players hadn’t forgotten “Ball Four”: warming up one day on the mound in Cincinnati, he was addressed by Pete Rose from the Reds dugout. Rose registered his disapproval of Bouton’s literary venture: “Fuck you, Shakespeare!”.

Mods, I couldnt’ decide where to put this – it has elements of Cafe Society, The Game Room, and Elections, so I put it here. Move if you see fit.

Nicely done-loved his humor

people probably thought golfers were pretty straight laced until Tiger Woods. :slight_smile: Of course in golf except in a few cases there are no team events so everyone is on their own with no rules to worry about.

I read that book when it came out and it was absolutely hilarious. Bet Jim can throw a perfect knuckleball where he is now!

Thanks for posting this, F. U.. For one thing, I always wondered where your name came from. Having that answered tho, I’ve spent most of the last hour reading about Jim Bouton, Yogi Berra (again; I loved that guy), the Yankees, the 1962 World Series and a bunch more. Entertaining and educating, and I reserved Ball Four at my local library. IMO, that’s a ddamned good lead into a lazy Saturday afternoon.

My first exposure to Bouton was when he starred in a very short-lived TV comedy in 1976, loosely based on Ball Four.

A couple of years later, when teenaged me was reading sports books in the library, I found his book, and enjoyed it a lot (and, yes, it opened my eyes as to how human sports stars actually are). One of my memories from that book was Bouton talking about Joe Schultz, his manager with the Seattle Pilots in 1969 – Bouton related that Schultz swore constantly, and his favorite obscenities were “shitfuck” and “fuckshit.” :smiley:

Yup. To this day, I still say “shitfuck” when I’m annoyed, thanks to Ball Four. RIP, Jim, and may you manage to avoid Howard Cosell. :smiley:

That book completely changed how I view the ups and downs of individual pro athletes, its dissection sort of debunking this illusion I hadn’t shook from the outside that many of their career arcs were fairly smooth trajectories.

Pretty sure the rules existed to avoid the transgressions.

What are you talking about? The rule was you can’t been seen in a hotel lobby with a woman not your wife, not even your sister. That’s not a rule that can mes anywhere in the ballpark of prevent philandering.

I remember reading Ball Four as a 12 year old and falling in love with it.

Anyone besides me remember reading the follow-up? Title was “I’m Glad You Didn’t Take It Personally”.
mmm

They were trying to cut down on players fucking their sisters?

That’s pretty hilarious, since Rose did a lot more to damage baseball’s reputation than Bouton ever could.

Wanna bet?

:flees:

More of my favorite “Ball Four” passages:

Bouton believed coach Fran Crosetti to be astute financially because he was always reading the Wall Street Journal. He also noted that Crosetti had agressively pursued some legal proceeding over disputed revenue from one of his former teams. “He lost (the proceeding)”, noted Bouton, “but I haven’t seen any holes in his shoes.”

Describing a contract negotiation with Yankees general manager Dan Topping, Jr. Bouton said that Topping “spoke with this boarding school accent that always made me feel like my fly was open”.

Bouton described a first meeting with a manager who asserted that he was an easy guy to get along with. (I can’t remember whether this was after “Ball Four”, or before [and therefore with the Astros or the minors after the Pilots traded him). To illustrate, the manager told Bouton that, “one of my players is an alcoholic, and another’s a moral degenerate”. Bouton wondered to himself “where a guy who talks to the press too much ranks among an alcoholic and a moral degenerate.”

A friend surreptitiously loaned me Ball Four in junior high, and it pretty much blew my 13-year-old mind. It’s not just that he revealed a lot of dodgy behavior by our notional heroes, but a lot of the struggles he talked about were personal and real, and I felt like it was the first time someone had ever talked to me as an adult, even if it was just a book.

When Bouton joined the Yankees, Mickey Mantle invited him to buy a two-dollar ticket for a raffle, the prize of which was a turkey. Bouton bought the ticket, and after some time had passed, asked Mantle who had won the turkey. Mickey informed him that there was no turkey. This, he explained to the young rookie, was one of the risks one undertook when taking part in a game of chance.

I suggest a new rule, if politicians don’t want us to question their integrity, don’t want even the appearance of temptation, they never allow themselves to be alone with a lobbyist.

Assuming this post wasn’t just a threadshit…

Bouton described a sign on the wall in the locker room which read, “What you do here, what you say here, let it stay here”. You can argue that this meant to protect strategy discussions. But when you read “Ball Four”, you’ll understand this wasn’t the case. The hatred directed at Bouton wasn’t for revealing pitching and baserunning signs.

In fact the transgressions (and the cover provided by the team) were one of the perks of being a big league ballplayer in that era. The rules were designed to provide this cover.

If the team wanted to avoid the transgressions, they would have fined players for cheating on their wives. And maybe put up a sign in the locker room reading “Thou shalt not commit adultery”.

:shrugs:
You would know better if that’s a problem in American sports. :wink:

Never said it was successful or even intended to be. It looks like it was to cover the derrières of the club.