JJ Abrams' NCC-1701

I don’t. However, I regain S.T. Cred by dint of the fact that at the age of… 13?.. I had over 600 color and black and white slides. I bought “Grab Bag” packs of 35mm film clips. Hacked apart with scissors. 4-6 useable frames at a time. In amongst shots of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, Sulu and Uhura were random shots from random episodes…and the coolest of the cool. Black and white test footage of the Enterprise model, some with a technician holding it.

I used to have slide shows in my room. :smiley:

Cartooniverse

I bow to your Trekker cred. :wink:

Slides…you may have to explain what things are to the kiddies in the crowd

Nah, we know what those are. They’re the pages in a PowerPoint Presentation!

head of the class :smiley:

Sure, I can give you an computer information tape. Have you upgraded to duotronics yet?

Me too!

Different subject matter, though: I lived near a porno theater that didn’t think twice about throwing their old films in the dumpster.

Course, now that the trailer is online at apple’s site, we can fanwank continuity…the C2 Corvette has the top UP in the first shot, then down the rest of the time. I doubt he stopped to drop the top.

Maybe it blew off.

Yes, but from what is shown in the trailer he isn’t being chased in the first scene. That’s probably when he stole the car. (I’m assuming he’s joyriding.)

You can’t judge continuity in a trailer. It’s just a mismatched bunch of images in a mixed up order.

It looks to me like he’s doing a “test of courage.” Getting the car closer and closer to the edge of the cliff before turning aside. Doesn’t mean that he didn’t steal the car, of course, but it doesn’t look to me like its a simple “steal the car and then dump it someplace” stunt.

Yes, and Follywood is great at turning out fantastic trailers for utterly shitty movies. As someone once pointed out (tongue-in-cheek), Follywood needs to let the guys who direct trailers start directing movies as they do a much better job.

In having watched it, I will say that generally cars of that era with black interiors had a matching black convertable top and not a white one. (Not Abrams fault if the car in the trailer isn’t “factory correct.”)

Well give 'em a break, the thing, if it’s supposed to be authentic and not a replica, would be something like two hundred years old, with one or two devastating world wars between the car’s construction and Jim’s joyride. It’s a small miracle that the thing can DRIVE, the fact that he got a soft top for it is just icing on the cake. :smiley:

Except that, with Corvettes, Red and White is a VERY popular combination. :wink:

Of course it’s canon, Paramount is still selling it as part of their line of Star Trek films. They want to have their cake and eat it too, and I’m here to say no way, that’s cheating. If I’m paying upwards of $60 for a 4 disc set of “The animated adventures of Gene Roddenberry’s Star Trek”, then it’s canon, baby. Which also answers something else that came up in this thread: replicators. In The Practical Joker, Enterprise NCC-1701 (no bloody A, B, C or D) definitely had replicators (and inflatable starships-hee!) because the plot revolved around them.

Yes, but I don’t know enough about Vettes to know if the red ones automatically got a white top, no matter what the color of the interior was, or if you could get the white top as an option with a black interior. Cars back then had a lot more custom options, so its entirely possible that one could have been built that way. Either way, I don’t consider it to be a “downcheck” against this particular film. After all, the convertable used in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had a modern stereo in the center console (just barely visible in a few shots, so apparently Gilliam knew to hide it).

I can’t believe you guys are having this debate. It’s been well established that the Federation is a highly authoritarian, militarized, oligarchic, Communist state. By Picard’s time, the masses have been brainwashed into believing that all of society’s ills have been cured and that all work is done for personal growth fulfillment. Prior to that brainwashing, however, you need to keep the proles occupied if you want to keep them from rebelling. The Federation space program is an elaborate full-employment scheme designed to attract and promote the most capable and ambitious into the ruling class (Starfleet) while keeping the rest of society “productively” occupied in supporting them. In order to accomplish this, the shipbuilding facilities use the most inefficient methods available in order to keep the maximum number of people both occupied with work and invested in it’s output (and hence in the continuation of the underlying social system).

The philosophy even works it’s way into ship design. That’s why consoles are rigged to blow at the slightest perturbation, why they can build never-fail gravity generators but can’t design an entertainment system that doesn’t become sentient and kill people, why all the ship’s systems only run efficiently when they’re routed through the navigational deflector. It’s why families were invited aboard the Enterprise D: because you’ll put on that red shirt (or yellow, in the case of Ent-D) more readily if your spouse and children are depending on you, and you’ll support the system more willingly if you see your spouse or father risk his neck out there for it every day.

You’ve noticed, of course, that Starfleet talks a lot about exploration and how it’s part of the grand human (sic) adventure, but the Enterprise (all of them) spends most of its time patrolling known systems, ferrying ambassadors and medical supplies, and classifying gaseous anomalies, but very little time actually going where no one has gone before? That’s because the Federation needs space to be not just the final, but the eternal frontier. It can’t afford to push its boundaries too tightly up against those of the Klingons or the Cardassians because it relies upon the myth of endless stretches of strange new worlds to explore in pursuit of its manifest destiny. Space is always the final frontier for the same reason Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

Look, humans don’t need to be out there zipping across the galaxy! Robotic probes could be doing that much more efficiently. They could even beam back holographic projections so that humans could do all the exploring from the comfort and safety of a holodeck. But society would collapse into rebellion and holodiction if it didn’t have a constant stream of Earth’s brightest and best doing their best to get killed for the motherland. Er–motherspace. Whatever.

I think you are confusing the ideas of “canon” and “licensed”.

No, I’m not.

Well he is being chased by a cop.

I dunno, Torque is a movie directed like a trailer and it made me want to set fire to the theater.