LOL. I feel like a ghost.
Pardon me, but the source of this quote is a Washington Post reporter. It’s possible that Wiegel got it wrong, but your accusation is FALSE.
You can leave it fully in context in a transcript and people will still grab it because they are either unable to understand what was being said in a conversational manner, or intentionally ignoring it.
That just how it is now. There’s nothing you can do about it.
This would be the annotated version:
“I mean, we may not want to demonize anybody who has made money,” he said. “The truth of the matter is, you all, you all know, you all know in your gut what has to be done [raise your taxes]. We can disagree in the margins but the truth of the matter is it’s all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one’s [None of your’s] standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change." [the second part of that sentence is merely a repetition of the first part]
So:
You’re gonna have your taxes raised
The point of which should not be to punish you, but to address income inequality, with is a real threat (referred to elsewhere in the remarks)
You and I both know you can afford it
NOT:
Don’t worry, we’re not gonna touch you
Wiegel mentioned that:
Italics mine. So he provided the very context that Gov. Dean said was missing.
Uh, huh. Biden says he wants to roll back the Trump tax cuts and you think the takeaway should be that he told rich guys not to worry about it.
Wiegel’s OK, but he only put the context in a sub-tweet. That’s what wanting to have a hot take on Twitter does to you.
ALL the Democrats should be doing that. If they don’t they’re just asking to be misrepresented.
Exactly right. People trying to earn a living may care about having a reputation for integrity, but they care about re-tweets more. Re-tweets (and similar social-media scoring features) are the metric by which they live.
Yes to all this.
The one and two-percent scoring presidential candidates are desperate for air time, and they know that they won’t get it by announcing they have a new plan for dealing with pharmaceutical prices. They will get that airtime by making it known they’re going to trash-talk a fellow-Democrat.
And so, many of them are doing it. They may try to couch it in ‘this is about values’ and other high-minded excuses, but it’s about getting those minutes on TV. And so they pile on the front runner—who is duly weakened by the attacks.
The really sad thing is that this is another example of that tragic lesson of history: authoritarians (and would-be authoritarians) gain power due to the help they receive from their opponents—who are providing that help completely unintentionally. Human nature and its inevitable incentives lead the opposition to weaken itself, giving the despot invaluable aid.
I don’t like Biden, but this “nothing will fundamentally change” distortion is total fucking bullshit. :mad:
I feel the same (on both counts).
Biden’s competitors, or some of them, anyway, are showing signs of being willing to be deliberately misleading for personal gain.
Bad sign. Bad look. Bad idea.
Huh. Any one else just feel a chill? Weird.
The fact that he’s a Washington Post reporter means…not a fucking thing, mate.
Yes, I suppose I am gracious enough to excuse you. You’re excused – excused first of all for copy/pasting the words of a journalist who was fucking stupid enough to vote and publicly support and advocate or the candidacy of Ralph Fucking Nader, the guy who basically helped give us 8 years of Bush, 8 years of war on terror, who gave us Iraq, Dick Cheney, and a Recession.
“Well like yah, but we got Obama after that! Fight the power!” :rolleyes:
That’s how these fucking egg-heads think. These fucking blow-up-the-system with Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, and Oprah? Who next - Stone Cold Steve Austin? But wait, it gets better: he registered Republican so he could vote for…Ron Paul (everyone’s favorite conspiracy theorist, Gold Standard, anti-semite, and racist).
Yes, you’re excused for copy/pasting words of an anarcho, nihilist hack who deliberately - yes, deliberately - misconstrued statements because he doesn’t like the man who phrased them and doesn’t trust people who read his bullshit enough to let them make their own decisions. He is the very fucking personification…of FAKE NEWS.
And the fact that the Washington Post hired him back after firing him once before is their own fucking credibility problem.
You’re excused.
Weigel voted for Ralph Nader AND Ron Paul?!? :smack:
To go back to what I mentioned before, if the Washington Post wants to continue to be viewed as the same kind of objective, without fear or favor news outlet, it should drop Weigel immediately. It never should have hired him to begin with. Otherwise, they’re fake news.
Thanks for posting this! I think Biden should use it in his campaign ads.(*)
Has the “Biden, Trump? Same-same!” contingent commented on this video?
(* - Or not. One thing the video makes clear is that Biden was once a much younger man.)
Well yes it does. It means I didn’t get this quote “from the frothing batshit insane wing of the party,” in your words. I got it from a news reporter at one of the more reliable news outlets.
So a guy was an elector for Nader when he’d just turned 19, and apparently for you, that is what defines him 19 years later.
I think that says WAY more about you than it does about him.
Whatever he was at 19, he seems to have been since then a mixture of libertarian and moderate Republican from the days when there were moderate Republicans.
It’s clear that asahi’s implication that he’s one of those too-liberal-to-vote-Democratic types is total bullshit.
The “Biden, Trump? Same-same!” contingent haven’t watched the video clearly. That’s a shame not only because they are ignoring/avoiding his good acts, but this one actually led to direct action. Per the description:
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Well yes it does. It means I didn’t get this quote “from the frothing batshit insane wing of the party,” in your words. ** I got it from a news reporter **at one of the more reliable news outlets.
You got it from a person’s twitter feed, okay? That’s where you got it from. And the twitter feed belongs to someone with a history of fringe politics and accusations of biased reporting.
If he weren’t wildly distorting the message of more mainstream candidates, I would be willing to put his past behind him. But when he irresponsibly truncates quotes and doesn’t correct himself even when people on his feed corrected him…then that’s on him.
Stop falling for left wing activist hack jobs. It’s not so hard.
Let’s see, he wrote for Slate, and he wrote about “Progressive Rock”. Then when he rejoins the Post later, he gets into another controversy over tweeting a photo of an empty arena before a Trump event and then posts it insinuating that the event was a dud. Nah, he doesn’t have bias or credibility problems.:rolleyes:
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And the person is a reporter for the Washington Post.
Please summarize that history. Show the substance behind these words you’ve been throwing around.
Don’t worry, I’m not falling for anything you say.