Joe Paterno very ill - may be dying soon [Update: RIP Joe Paterno]

[Ogre]

@Mince

Can you come down from Mt. Righteous for a moment so that you can hear me say that I take no joy in his death (or, in your colorful metaphor, I am not dancing on his grave). His death doesn’t mean we have to stop criticizing his horrible decision and worship him unconditionally.

Who the fuck said I was talking about you?

[Enola_Gay]

@SeamusMcCool

It is exactly what it states. That more than 90% of people who are aware of abuse don’t report it. Anybody who knows anything about the subject knows it is the norm to cover it up. I could easily fill this page with links backing up my point. Doesn’t make it right, but I know enough to know that nobody has the high moral ground on this subject. None of us can know for sure what we’d do unitl we’re faced with the same situation.

We can say more could have been done, but to say it with malice and to let it tarnish his whole career is beyond anybody’s moral compass to do so. He wasn’t an active participant in some kind of community sex ring, no need to act like he was or that we are mind readers who knew exactly what his motivations were or what he did or did not know.

What until the case goes to trial and all the facts are out in the open before passing final judgement on Jo Pa.

Would you please quote the passage from your link that states “that more than 90% of people who are aware of abuse don’t report it”?

I found the following stats from your link (bolding mine):

@the link you provided

Estimates of child sexual abuse rates vary for many reasons. Less than 10 percent of set abuse is reported to the policed.10 Definitions of both abuse and the age of maturity affect frequency rates.6 Protective services only record reported cases and typically focus on intrafamilial abuse, thus excluding non-caretakers.6

Even in self-reporting surveys, abuse may be underreported because many people are afraid or ashamed to reveal victimization, have repressed memories of abuse, refuse to participate in studies or deny that what happened was “real” abuse.1,

So are you seriously suggesting that your link states that in 100% of sex abuse cases, another person besides the victim is aware of or has witnessed the abuse? And only 10% of these witnesses report it to police?

If so, please quote the exact passage from your link that makes that claim. Otherwise I think you are misunderstanding what you are reading.

Btw the typos and grammatical errors in that link are abhorrent, which makes me question the validity of the content (which still doesn’t say what you claim it says). Additionally the above quote is taken from “David Finkelhor, Gerald Hotaling and Kerti Yllo, Stopping Family Violence: Research Priorities in the Coming Decade. Newbury Park: Sage Publications, 1988”…which certainly suggests that the stats he quotes relate to interfamilial sex abuse…but regardless, it still doesnt support your claim “that more than 90% of people who are aware of abuse don’t report it”, even in cases of interfamilial sex abuse.