John Fetterman really needs to resign

“That venue wasn’t built to accommodate an event with the line of succession for the U.S. government.” Fetterman posted Sunday

Your right John! Clearly, the fucking Secret Service can’t “suggest” to the idiots in the line of succession that they can not all be in the same place at the same time. But I know you have trouble actually thinking things through logically now that your a conservative Republican.

Fetterman is not a conservative Republican. He does lack mental clarity IMO. I guess we should expect more dipshit commentary from the guy, which I maintain doesn’t really hurt the Democrats. (There’s another thread to debate policy issues connected with the Hilton shooter who was tackled before he reached the floor of the Hilton ballroom.)

Still, at some point, the two become indistinguishable.

If it helps you, my brother convinced myself and my sister (aged 10, 8, and six respectively), that calamari rings - relatively rare in my landlocked home country - were in fact chicken assholes.

Took me a while to recover from that.

You’re not the only one to make claims like that:

(I’m assuming discussion of assholes is appropriate for P&E)

I don’t know, I think President Linda McMahon would do a fine job.

Barely Moderating:

I think the “-ass” running gag has overstayed it’s welcome in a P&E thread. So please no more replies on this subject.

This is just a guidance, not a warning.

Given his stroke-induced struggles to sometimes have difficulty spitting out what he wants to say, Fetterman reached a low point on Maher last week where, at one point, it took him about twenty of the most painful seconds trying spit out anything coherent. Tried to find the sequence on youtube, unsuccessfuly. It was such a glaring display of verbal dysfunction that it really hit home with me that - along with some of his questionable agreements with GOP “policy” - he really does need to resign.

Verbal disability doesn’t bother me. The second half … yeah.

I’ll cut him slack for difficulty in verbalizing. That’s a common effect of a stroke and isn’t reflective of a person’s cognitive abilities. Stroke victims shouldn’t be stigmatized for their communication skills.

It’s everything else about Fetterman that means he has to go. Let’s focus on his policies.

Yeah, my step-mother had a stroke several months ago and she went from very aphasic on day one (could read aloud a written paragraph perfectly, but struggled to get out even just a few words trying to have a conversation) to ~98% recovered today. But she will struggle occasionally because although she knows a word she wants to use, she literally can’t spit it out. She has to occasionally pause mid-sentence and try to think of an appropriate synonym. Very frustrating for her and I’m sure Fetterman as well. He deserves some patience on that.

Just not necessarily for some of his whack political views.

John “I love a good war” Fetterman cast the deciding vote against trying to limit what Trump can do in Iran. What a POS!

My best friend is the same. He had a stroke, was in a coma for months, could not speak for a long time after that, and today is mostly recovered. But he does have problems every now and then speaking.

Heck, even Biden has had problems for decades, not due to brain injury but just a speech impediment. That isn’t a huge problem. As you and others say, it’s his views that are dangerous, and his total break with his party to support Trump repeatedly. At this point, he is basically a MAGA Democrat.

Having gone back through our evolving conversation on Fetterman, we originally were looking at his physical and mental health and wondering how it was affecting his politics. One of my earlier assumptions (not mine alone of course) was that his truancy on votes, his lashing out, etc. seemed to the actions of a person deeply unhappy with his role in government.

I’m still wondering about that. It would seem that if it were the case, at this point, he’d just show up less, rather than showing up to vote against the party. I mean just abstaining would likely be a better compromise if he wished to be a Warhawk Democrat and stay in the party. But he’s still voting with Democrats far more often than against. Not a perfect site, but:

[ note this was also linked by @Atamasama nearly a year ago ]

And he’s showing up for the majority of the votes compared to the past (see the upthread discussion). If he was truly MAGA in Democrat’s clothing, I’d expect it to be more blatant - FTR, I do completely blame him for the votes he’s made, especially the most recent one, but I’m wondering WHAT he actually wants.

Is he planning on running as an independent in 2028? He’d be able to show that he works with both sides if so, but few Democrats would trust him, and the Republicans would only see him as a useful tool.

Is he planning on being done with politics in 2028? If so, given his health and apparent frustration, why not resign earlier?

Or does he expect the Democrats to continue to tack right-ward in future elections, and figure that this is a winning tactic for the future - which isn’t accurate in my opinion, but absolutely a non-zero chance given that Trump/MAGA have shoved the Overton window that far over.

If I thought he were the more calculating sort, I’d wonder if he was just waiting to see how things fall after midterms and tack right or left according to who he expects to hold power. He may be considering becoming one of those who demands extra consideration if the midterms result in a more narrow split or narrow thin majority for team D.


Again, long and rambling, I apologize. So TL;DR - I just do not get Fetterman’s end game here. However, as a politician inconsistency is never (okay, almost never, see Trump) appreciated by the voters or the party, and Fetterman is a prime example. I just don’t know if he even has an endgame, or is just venting spleen at both sides by doing whatever he wants at the moment.

I don’t either. Nothing about him makes sense.

Would the “resolution” actually do anything?

Yes.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5876248-senate-vote-war-powers-iran/

Fetterman was clearly unwell WHEN HE WAS RUNNING. The only thing to recommend him was he wasn’t Mehmet Oz, which gave Fetterman one good trait, which is one more than Mehmet Oz. Though he was, justifiably, seen as being a guy whose only desirable trait was not being a Trumpist, not a single person on this planet who read a hundred words about him really, truly thought the man was mentally healthy.

Yeah, Mehmet “unchilded people” Oz.

Fetterman’s better, marginally.