To whom? You? Or the gutless lefties who got their asses handed to them on a plate by the Republicans in November because they couldn’t muster a pair to stand up to the globalist, Social Darwinist bullies?
I don’t care much for criticism from those whose ideas of argument and confrontation (or total lack thereof) got them so thoroughly steamrolled.
But that’s not what your OP was about. If you feel his opinions on the need for educational programs are wrong you could have discussed that in the original thread. There was no need to remove something he wrote from its original context and make what appears to be a dubious claim about it in a new thread.
WTF? He said Americans are too stupid to educate themselves about the job market. You guys are now spin-doctoring it with the excuse that he was being ironic. I presented information that very strongly suggests he couldn’t have been trying to be ironic unless he is a total ignoramus instead.
And that information is being rejected in part because, as it turns out, nobody likes you. You’re kind of a jerk.
Wow, the Le Jacquelope jumped the shark but fast.
Well, then you’ll have to stick with the argument that he is a total ignoramus, because he was quite clearly not stating that Americans are stupid. There is simply no good way to make sense of his argument otherwise, particularly where he immediately says “And when they actually are too stupid”. (Of course, he wasn’t being an ignoramus, but that is neither here nor there. You have mischaracterized him in a prima facie unreasonable way, one which calls into question your own ability to comprehend the arguments made against you.)
Course it wasn’t a lack of need for educational programs he was moaning about. It was the idea that Government might have any role whatsoever in forging a path to our technological future. If John’d just thought the programs weren’t needed he could have said that, instead of going hypergolic on the ‘Americans are stupid’ theme.
John made his anti-government ideology quite clear, even if all he wanted to do was prevent a reasonable discussion of government’s role in the tech job marketplace.
John doesn’t have an ideology.
Oh well. And while you’re at it you might explain to me why I should care if you or anyone else likes me or not.
You don’t matter enough for me to care. John Mace couldn’t possibly be saying people are smart enough to get into IT when every source in the universe is saying Americans are STAMPEDING away from IT. Unless you just assume he’s an idiot who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, in which case you’re just beating him up to support this wild-eyed claim that I’m misinterpreting him. Which I’m not. But it doesn’t matter because some kids on a message board don’t like me. Oh noes. I’m hurt. Help me, I’m hurting!
See, I told you we were stupid.
But he does have a Mace.
Is it wrong that I too want to be swooshed now?
Clue for the dimwitted, tolling OP: **John Mace **is a lefty. He and Silenus are two of the more reasonable lefties around here, but lefty they are. Kinda sad. I’m trying to lure them back to the side of the Jedi.
Oh look, Trolly McTrollsterson started another thread he can keep bumped himself to give himself more attention.
Anyone to the sinister side of Rush, ehh Oaky?
Keep up the redefining. If you lie long enough and hard enough, people’ll believe you, and it’ll become the new reality. Or so some say.
Sure he does.
We all have ideology. An ideology is simply a set of ideas or beliefs or philosophies that make up a worldview. Some ideologies are more clearly defined than others, and some even have names, but we all partake in ideology.
It’s one of the enduring myths of American society that only those crazy commies or Nazis or other extreme groups have ideologies. A belief in democracy and freedom and limited government intervention in the economy is no less an ideology than a belief in Marxism or Fascism.
Ideologies are like accents. Only foreigners have them.
They’re more like guidelines…
Enjoy,
Steven
I really didn’t think there would be any question about that.
I am on record, though, as saying that “people are stupid”. Americans don’t have any monopoly on that! 
Only if being a mindless partisan is the only way you show yourself to have an ideology around here.
That’s funny. I’m used to being called a righty around here, but this may be the first time I’ve been called a lefty.
If Obama is a trot you can be a mere lefty John 