Johnson/Hanks in 2020-After Trump, is anything possible?

What with Kanye West announcing that he would run for president in 2020 as well, this will be a sight to see.

I hope all the celebrities run - let’s have the Kardashians in there as well while we’re at it - but that eventually a mature, experienced political veteran takes them all down.

Thud, I know what you’re saying and it’s a depressing thing. I guess it’s been true since politics began, but I"m just not ready to throw in the towel on the idea of the Prez as a Leader as opposed to a front man/woman for a platform. Shit. Call me an idealist I suppose…

I’d hope that if he does, he wouldn’t have a chance on the democratic side. The base of the democratic party is liberals who I’d hope wouldn’t vote for some unqualified celebrity (except Al Franken of course, who actually was qualified a bit due to understanding of policy).

The GOP side though, would probably vote for anyone at this point.

Sounds a bit like a CA governor’s race.

Don Johnson. He’s running for Vice Mayor of Miami. :smiley:

And how did that work out for the Republicans last time? Way to step up to the plate.

Dwayne Johnson would be ten times the President Trump is, and one tenth the President a real statesman would be.

My sentiments exactly.

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Even in a post-Trump world, I don’t see this happening. If the voters have learned their lesson about electing people with no experience, then a couple of actors can’t win. And if (God forbid) the voters haven’t learned that lesson by 2020, then they’ll just re-elect Trump himself.

And the difference with Franken is that he started with the Senate, not the Presidency, and even that after a fair bit of political involvement. Now, political writer to Senator is still a pretty big jump, but it’s nowhere near as big as apolitical actor to President. And I’m pretty sure that you’d find at least one big jump in the background of anyone who became President, because it’s too far to the top and lifetimes are too short to make it entirely in small jumps.

Understand the reasons why Trump got elected:

  1. He was the opposite reaction to the man who preceded him.

  2. He had lots of his own money.

  3. He was seen as a tool by special interests.

Consider these factors and we might then be able to predict what our next Prez will probably look like.

Next GOP candidate will be a pile of dogshit with a tiny American flag stuck in it. And it will get 45% of the vote.

Depends on how fluently they can talk about policy. Being inexperienced they’ll have to meet a certain credibility bar and both of them are smart enough to learn their lines, obviously. That’s really all it takes.

Only we’re not sure a mature, experienced political veteran can beat a celebrity. Trump faced numerous such politicians (a few Republicans and at least one Democrat) yet came out ahead anyway.

Politicians will figure it out. Authenticity is the key. Politicians in the TV age have been used to basically being actors, and not particularly talented actors. They need to learn how to be themselves and take the good with the bad. Trump had more bad than good and won. Imagine how a guy who knows what he’s talking about would do, with fewer negatives. But most politicians are so scared of revealing ANYTHING negative about themselves that they just come off as fake, which is worse than letting the world see your bad side.

Really? Name such a politician who be under 75 in 2020.

There are plenty of qualified Democrats, it’s just that Democratic voters don’t bother to know anyone except the big names and a couple of lefty heroes that the activists love. Republican voters, by contrast, can usually tick off a dozen or two names right off the top of their heads of people they like.

Part of this is also ironically, those same Democratic activists. They draw a lot of attention to Republican officeholders who they hate: Scott Walker, Michelle Bachmann, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Michael Steele… Unlike Republicans who generally just focus on one villain for a long time(Obama! Clinton!), Democrats spread their outrage around and that gives conservatives a lot more heroes to rally around.

Well, the Limbaugh types like mocking ‘uppity’ women and ‘effeminate’ men. So they liked to bring up Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and every freaking woman in Bill Clinton’s cabinet. It probably pays off less to bring attention to ‘manly’ Democrats.

I think the Democratic outrage machine knows a lot of GOP names because of so many GOP officeholders running around picking fights, sometimes with actual physical assault.

Instead of #FeelTheJohnson you can have #JohnsonYanks

I think I dissed Mr Johnson/Hanks in another thread (or it came out that way) and I didn’t want it to come out that way. I may have been frustrated by the child-king sitting at the desk of POTUS as if he were a French Daunphan.
The one disassembling all of our social infrastructure while colluding with the Russians and smashing the NATO Alliance singletinyhandedly, but none of that is Mr Hanks fault.

Yes, we need this POTUS gone and if we had a less corrupt Congress, he would be. That goal has to remain our primary focus until such time as there is no longer a threat to America or its continuation as a going-concern.

That said, once that tiny-handed flabby-assed twitter-whisperer has been ejected, the next candidates need to be vetted and passed through such a fine filtering process that no possibility of a ‘Drumpf’ being put forth by any party will be acceptable
within the living lifetime of any human being currently drawing breath on the planet. If Mr Johnson/Hanks is ready to put up with that, so be it, but it may just be the single worst experience of their lives.

On the bright side, polyps might be found early…

Yes, Trump proves that absolutely anything is possible in politics. He will reign for eight full years and leave with 100% approval and our next president will be an open white supremacist who will wear swastikas to every rally and run on non white genocide and will win all fifty states.

Anything is possible. All polls are wrong forever, nothing can ever be predicted ever ever again.