I must disagree. He was calm and articulate in posing questions, but repeatedly let Trump run roughshod over him, running overtime and interrupting Hillary. Several times my wife and I said, “When is Lester going to speak up?”
And we’re not alone: CNN Launches Manhunt After Lester Holt Vanishes from Debate | The New Yorker
I did not actually watch the debate, apart from a few glances at the silent screen while dining out. The thing I heard about was that bad-hair-guy had looked forward to the economic collapse of '07-08 because it gave him a chance to make some sweet deals in real estate. What exactly was it that he said on the subject, and could it have an effect on how people see him?
Also, his response to stiffing the contractors who worked for him: “Maybe he didn’t do a good job” But the NATO countries better pay what they owe, right Donald? Typical “businessman” Don’t pay what you owe, and come up with excuses why you stiff contractors, but demand that when you send a bill it is paid on time or you will sue.
From the debate…
Trump on Clinton saying he rooted for housing crisis: ‘That’s called business’
Here’s a blurb on it - Trump on Clinton saying he rooted for housing crisis: ‘That’s called business’<!-- --> - MarketWatch
He’s saying that he wasn’t sniffling, they haeve him a defective microphone.
Because nothing is ever his fault. EVER. Not even his sniffling.
I agree. Holt did not keep control of the debate.
O rily? :rolleyes:
CNN’s fact check showed Clinton with one " true, but misleading." While Trump was caught in about 18 lies.
CNN’s fact check showed Clinton with one " true, but misleading." While Trump was caught in about 18 lies.
“I’m not going to make the same mistake loser Romney did!”
Holt had a very thin line to walk, and I think he did a very good job considering all the points he had to hit. Don’t let Trump get away with blatant lying, dodging questions, or violating the debate format, all while avoiding the appearance of bias. He had to try not to make it look like he was singling out Trump, while Trump’s behavior intrinsically demands special treatment. What else could Holt have done to corral Trump? Unfortunately, he can’t cut the mic, shoot him with a tranquilizer dart, or have him removed from the stage.
Of course, the Trump camp is complaining about Holt’s bias, but that was going to happen regardless. They complained about Matt Lauer asking tough questions, and he was practically doing a puff piece on Trump.
I live near Atlantic City and worked in the casino business for a couple of years. Some of my friends still do. The stories of Trump’s failing to pay local contractors for work done, or paying a fraction of what was agreed upon are pretty common. Many of these businesses were of the “mom and pop” variety, putting everything they had into the Trump basket with the expectation that he would actually honor the contracts. Probably not the smartest business move but it was a boom time and everyone was trying to cash in. And it was Donald Trump after all! Then he stiffed them and few, if any had the resources to hire lawyers to fight Trump. They were wiped out financially. What is Trump’s response?
“But on occasion, four times, we used certain laws that are there. And when Secretary Clinton talks about people that didn’t get paid, first of all, they did get paid a lot, but taken advantage of the laws of the nation.”
Could any Trumpers please translate just what that disjointed, incoherent statement actually means? Anyone?
My best guess is that he is saying “I took advantage of bankruptcy laws maximize my profit and some people got ruined. So what? I gamed the system. That’s what business is all about.”
Legal? I guess so. But is this the type of person we need running our country? Or walking your dog?
Trump says she went from 118 to “160 or 170”. Here is a video from Clinton’s website with some brief clips of the workout (at :58). She doesn’t look heavy at all.
Footage of the Machado workout. Look at those leering assholes. My God.
Woah, guys, back off of Will. I see the problem here.
Will, Clinton was the one standing on the right. You’re thinking of Trump, the one standing on the left.
Easy mistake, could happen to anyone!
This exchange made me laugh. It’s not a campaign killer, just bad optics for Trump:
Trump completely talked over the African American who’s trying to facilitate a conversation-- actually steer it back on course-- on racial healing in our country. Maybe, just maybe, the race conversation is the one time you dial it back. But nope.
I think it’s very telling when people point out how “smug” Clinton looked last night but fail to mention how Trump looked. The man came right out and said Clinton doesn’t have 'the look" of a president. He sniffed and rolled his eyes and squinted and snorted. He was so cocky and smarmy and condescending, but Clinton was smug?! I guess that’s the way it works. SHE looks smug. HE looks confident.
But isn’t this a *good *thing, to let Trump show his true jerkish colors?
Trump never smiles. I asked my wife why he doesn’t smile and she said(since she watched him for years on The Apprentice) that Trump smiling isn’t ingratiating, it’s disconcerting.
I think Trump is completely wrong for his sexist comments about Clinton’s “look”, but due to her general lack of sincerity, pretty much all of her expressions are grating except her neutral expression. Ever since her response to a NAFTA question caused her to laugh at the moderator in 2008, it’s just always signalled that she’s being dishonest.
And I don’t think that for the average voter, dislike of her manner is about her sex. Not all female politicians run into that problem. Mainly the ones who can’t relate to people.
Thetranscript of the debate is here. The opening segment was about America’s economy, and questioning why each candidate would thinks they’d be a better choice for the economy. There was back and forth on what they’d do, and then this:
Also, somewhat related in regards to him exploiting people: