Jonathan Chance: So What is the Official List of Things You Want Me to Remain Silent About

It’s was more like a Zen koan.

I’ll remember that next time I see a school divide its classes by ability, and remember that they don’t think the lower ones are human.

This, by the way, is another example of your absurd overgeneralisation. It has not always been used that way, it has sometimes been used that way.

Yes, the differences I see are:

-The first ought to be moderated, especially when it’s proven that the people constantly posting the first are liars, over and over, but isn’t moderated because conservative hate speech is deemed “acceptable” by our society.

-The second and third are things that aren’t actually said, so nobody should really care about.

Once again, I find it absolutely amazing and completely telling how many people are willing to go to bat for the racists, consider hate speech not hate speech, and then whine they’re being discriminated against.

The claim, was a reminder, was that the average intelligence of sub-saharan Africans was literally mentally retarded. This isn’t even “just a bit less IQ”, there were claims of “these people are literally mentally retarded, as a whole”.

Surely, you see that as problematic, don’t you?

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That is an interesting observation (though not true), especially considering your penchant for doing exactly that. All republicans are evil, according Der Trihs. All Christians hate and want want to kill women says Der Trihs. The vast majority of Americans want to kill brown people says Der Trihs*.

Now, of course, you’ll try to blow off this observation by stating that the groups you hate and portray as lesser and thoroughly evil are in those groups by choice. Which is not always true, but it won’t stop you anyway. And you won’t even, for a second, consider that the groups you choose to run around hating have a lot of diversity of opinion and thought.

You’ll just continue on in your little world of hate, painting a one word description on all those you disagree with so that it is that much easier to dismiss them as lesser beings deserving of your loathing.

Slee

*Not exact quotes but Der has posted the general ideas multiple times.

So I’m not getting a prize? :frowning:

You get eternal enlightenment.

So you got that going for you.

Cite?

Is this a serious question?

If so, them respectfully you know painfully little about American history, have some absurdly distorted views on what does and doesn’t constitute racism, or are aggressively in denial of reality.

I thought that was a fair distinction actually. But there’s an asymmetry between calling a person of color a racist and calling a white person that, just as there’s an asymmetry with regards to racial slurs. (And incidentally, I’d consider a racial slur against a black person to be far more toxic than calling a white person a racist - though I insist that the latter borders on fighting words and may cross over).

…but all that said, I’ve lost track of this conversation. Direct insults are only allowed in the pit anyway. And I haven’t advocated curbing the word racist in the pit. I’m not keen on the overuse of the word but guess what? I don’t see that here and I haven’t seen that in the US for the past 20+ years. I can think of one example of the word being hurled in a dubious manner in the pit - and in that case it wasn’t entirely unreasonable.

Maybe I overstated my case in another thread. I’m having difficulty recalling. :smack:

“Most of American history”. Let’s see. 2013-1776=237 years. Half of that is 118.5 - call that 120 years. Add that to 1776: that puts us at 1896. The Chinese Exclusion Act was passed in 1882. Laws in California prohibited whites from marrying Chinese until they were repealed in 1948. Never mind African Americans, the preceding laws are pretty explicitly racist. So um yeah: there’s Ibn’s citation.

Hm. Maybe we could roll back Ibn’s claim to “White supremacy has been the dominant ideology throughout most of US history.” Because there have been pockets of resistance to these views that might be acknowledged. From wiki I see that, “One of the critics of the Chinese Exclusion Act was the anti-slavery/anti-imperialist Republican Senator George Frisbie Hoar of Massachusetts who described the Act as “nothing less than the legalization of racial discrimination.””

You’re just making noise. What Roderick Femm stated was true. Nothing you said negates it. Or have you never had a logic course?

:rolleyes: Nope. Care to try again? But here’s a tip, if your argument is based on the people being “liars”, you really don’t have much on your side of the debate.

No. People disagree with you and the other politically correct liberals as to what constitutes hate speech. Is this really so difficult for you to grasp?

Can we have a site for that, in context please? I think I recall someone correcting you on this once already.

Now, my memory might be failing me and you may be right, but I don’t recall it as you suggest. But, I will offer that the claim you say was made seems ridiculous. Not necessarily racist, but just plain wrong. Which would make it easy to refute. No?

I was just about to make this very point. I’d say that no poster is as guilty of doing what he describes as himself.

Not to mention t hat until 1952, by law, immigrants were only allowed to be naturalized as US citizens if they were “free white persons”, which is why only about 60% of the internees at the WWII detainment camps were citizens and of course most Americans, well into the late 1960s supported anti-misegenation laws.

Also, American history started long before 1776 and racism shouldn’t be measured simply by laws.

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The second and third are things that aren’t actually said, so nobody should really care about.
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Actually both have been said, by the OP. Do you have a suggestion based on what really happens?

Regards,
Shodan

That and worse. If I had the time I’d like to compile a Best of Der Trihs. I just don’t know if it would make me really sad or never stop laughing.

If I understand the topic under discussion, the issue was the mean IQ of 70 that the Bell Curve authors “found” in sub-Saharan Africa. In the US, persons with IQs below 70 are mentally retarded as a matter of law.


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