Who’s better? I think that Kobe could beat the jordan from back in the day.
Well, Robert Jordan (The Wheel of Time Series) is certainly a more popular author than Kobe Abe (The Cliff of Time), and outsells him quite a bit. Kobe is also dead, which has affected his more recent literary output.
Haha, i was talking about michael jordan and kobe bryant.
Define Better.
You seem to focus on one on one skills and give Kobe the edge. I totally disagree. I think MJ @25 vs Kobe @25 would be very comparable in Offense (Kobe a little better a little further out from the basket/MJ a little better above it). But MJ has always played defense much better & would beat Kobe in a seven game series of 21, 8 series out of 10.
Jordan was the best player in the NBA during his reign (say 88ish thru 92 and then 94 thru 98) – there was simply no question.
Kobe has never been the best player in the NBA : KG, Shaq, & Tim Duncan would all be taken ahead of Kobe today – or, at least, can be argued as better by people not seen as hopeless “homers” or insane.
But if By better you mean “better player”. I think the answer is very clear. Besides his prodigious personal skills, Jordan was much more of a team leader and team player than Kobe has ever been. Jordan was a leader of his team from the day he was drafted, Kobe has never been a leader of the Lakers. Famously Kobe has at times refused to cooperate to the detriment of the team
Michael made his teammates better & at times alone willed his team to victory. (IMO alert) Jordan would never have lost the last playoff Spurs series & he would never have disappeared at crunch time like Kobe did at times this year (to extend his Dominque Wilkins-like streak) and how Kobe was MIA (at times) vs. Minnesota trying for personal glory.
I’ve never cared for Jordan as a person–so I’m not speaking as a fan–but to claim that Kobe at 25 is better than Jordan at 25 is just silly. I’ll simply second the reasons already given for this claim, and suggest that they’re readily apparent to anyone who pays attention.
Kobe’s career stats right now: 21.5 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.2 apg
Jordan through his first 7 years: 32.6 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 5.9 apg
He’s got a long way to go before you can make that comparison.
his first seven… Kobe hasnt been playing that long. But it’s just my opinion
Yes he has eyedea. this was his 7th season.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/statistics?statsId=3118
While Kobe was averaging 7.6 and 15.4 pts pgm his first two seasons in the NBA, MJ at that age was hanging NCAA Championship banners in NC.
Commentators always mention that Kobe will never be as good as Jordan as far as ball control goes, since Jordan has the bigger hands and therefore is able to maintain better handle. I agree with that.
I’d say Kobe is more athletic, but even that’s up for debate.
I’ve gotta go with M.J. here. It’s not just pure athletic ability (and Mike takes a back seat to nobody there) it’s intangibles. Jordan had the ability to will his team to win no matter what.
You need look no further for Mike’s mental toughness than game 5 of the NBA finals against the Utah Jazz (the “sick” game).
I’ve never seen Kobe put a team on his back the way Jordan could do it. Jordan just wasn’t going to lose. Kobe doesn’t have that.
I have a lot of respect for Kobe’s ability, I really like him. But no way does he get my vote here. He’s never even been the main guy, the leader, on his own team. In addition to his talent, to which Kobe’s may be comparable, Michael was a great leader. Perhaps that’ll change if Kobe leaves LA, but I don’t know. He won’t be the cornerstone of a franchise - much less a league - the way Jordan was.
Michael wasn’t perfect every night - though he was usually good enough to win once he had a halfway decent team - but I think he has better judgment. Jordan trusted Kerr, Paxson, et al. Kobe had some awful games against the Spurs in the playoffs - and even when he scored, I was disappointed by his selfishness. 16-for-38 in Game 1, 9-for-24 in Game 2… he’s got Shaq on his team, come on.
Re MJ- an aside, but he hit .202 in double AA. Shows how hard hitting a thrown ball is. I believe 3 years w/ Dean Smith helped tremendously, Kobe didn’t get it, & wonder how James will be w/ no college. Don’t get me wrong, he’s already got $90 mill from Nike, so I agree w/what he did, but probably not best for his bball sense.
He was a tremendous base-stealer, though. 
Really, I meant to add one other thing: most of what I said above is about the intangibles, Jordan had DRIVE like no one else. But nothing compares to what I’ve seen from Jordan when he was young. The way he could jump and just stay in the air… he looked like he wouldn’t come down unless he wanted to.
Marley-here’s a scoop-you heard it here 1st. If MJ were 30, he wouldn’t retire right? So why should he? Hell Ryan pitched until his arm fell off at 46. And, it gives Mike a good reason to be away from the Missus. So I think he’ll play more, but maybe not full time-end of year kind of thing.
My cousin travelled for a week w/ the Bulls- MJ had a limo w/ 4 honies waiting at every airport.
Wha? He actually DID retire at a little past 30 (the first time). Anyway, he’s 40 now, which is ancient for a basketball player. Michael was the second or third oldest player in the league, and scored like nobody else his age ever has. Also, he’s got a certain degree of vanity - if he keeps playing, he’d fall behind Chamberlain in career PPG. He’s done.
I’m a little confused as to how this whole thing relates to my post, but OK.
He’s apparently looking into coaching or general managing another team, probably the new Charlotte franchise owned by Robert Johnson. And basketball is very, very different from baseball. Nobody could play 35 minutes a night (or however many MJ played) at 46, and few threw like Ryan did at even CLOSE to his age - Clemens is a marvel for pitching as he is at age 40.
On top of all the rest of it, why would anyone hire him to play for part of the season?
And if he wants to cheat on his wife, he can. He’s not gonna play just for that. 