My current LCD TV (47" LG, bought in 2012, 1920 x 1080P, TruMotion 240Hz, LED edge backlight) has a big problem with juddering. When the camera pans to the left, right, up or down, it looks like it is moving at 6 frames a second. It is much more noticeable for TV shows that have lots of action, but it can also be seen when the camera pans slowly for more than a second or two. I do not know how it does with movies or Blu-Ray, as I do not watch many. I have tried altering the settings, including an anti-judder setting, but nothing has worked.
I am considering buying a new TV, the Samsung UN50H6400, 50-Inch, 1080p, 120Hz, LED TV. It was highly rated by Consumer Reports, although they tested the 55" version (too big for my space). They also gave high marks to the Samsung UN50HU8550 50-Inch 4K Ultra HD 120Hz. However, you do pay an extra $500 for the Ultra HD at current prices. Will these new TVs have less juddering, especially as they have 120Hz refresh rates instead of my current 240Hz? Although with my current LG TV, the 240Hz refresh rate might be “effective”. Thank you very much for any replies.
Keep playing with those settings. Try turning off the entire Auto Motion and/or Clear Motion thing instead of just adjusting the Judder Reduction part. A little bit of googling tells me that on that TV that’s the culprit for “Soap Opera Effect” and even though what you’re describing doesn’t sound like Soap Opera Effect, it’s normally the first thing people complain about with a new TV and I suspect you came up with the word juddering because that’s the word the TV used.
Here’s a random post I found;
“I have mine (at the moment, this is all likely to change!) set to Motion Custom with 2 or 3 for blur/judder, which seems to have a positive effect on motion judder but not introduce a soap opera effect at all”
and here’s the thread on your TV at AVSForums, you might want to flip through it, it’s only 12 pages and other people may have already come up with the settings that work, if not, ask them for some help, that’s where I got for all my TV questions:
Hi, Joey P. Thank you for your reply. Actually, my current TV is an LG 47LM7600, while the Samsung UN50H6400 is a TV that I was considering buying as a replacement (the avsforums.com link is for the Samsung H6400 series). I checked out the website for my current TV. There are some possibly useful search results, but I will have to check them out tomorrow. Thanks
Whatever TV you buy, it is well worthwhile going to AVSForums to get advice on the best settings for you. Modern TVs have so many adjustments that without some help, it is really easy to get lost.
There is of course no universal setting that suits every individual and every location, but it helps to have a starting point and to make fine adjustments from there.
What are you using for the input source? Using the TV tuner? Internet TV? RuKu? Cable/Sat box? Especially that last one could be the problem as it may not be able to handle the HD signal as well as it should.
You said that you have a Bluray perhaps you can try that, either with a disk or most have internet TV.
Does this happen on all aspect ratios? Mine does that to some extend when I’m set on Zoom, which I have to be on some channels in order to get full screen.
Sounds like OP has a problem with motion interpolation. People who aren’t familiar with the concept call it the “Soap Opera Effect” for lack of a better term. The problem is that your TV is trying to create data based off of the difference between several frames, and can get spooked by sudden, rapid motion, and also by slow pans. Some TVs are better than others in this regard, and they all have different names for the “feature.”
I have the TV connected to a cable company DVR via an HDMI cable. I mostly watch pre-recorded shows, but I also watch on-demand shows through the cable company (Charter).
I am exploring the picture options, as suggested. Also, I know that people might cringe, but I usually watch standard definition shows because I can fit more recordings on my DVR. I now feel just a little stupid about posting before exploring the difference between SD and HD versions of shows. Another thing that I feel bad about is not testing the difference between the zoom, stretch and black-bar versions, which jtur88 reminded me about. I always watch the stretch version. When I watch on-demand shows, I select the HD version whenever it is available, but I have not noticed a big difference in juddering, otherwise I would have switched to all HD years ago, file size be damned. I will still try it again, paying closer attention, though.
Thank you, everyone, for your help on this, especially the motion interpolation thing, but you should probably help other people until I have done my homework above. Normally, I could do it very quickly, but, for personal reasons, it is going to take a little while. Thanks again