Junior is a Red

An 9 year contract extenstion. $117.5 mil. Cincinatti gets the best player in baseball. Seattle gets (stats for 1999 season):
CF Mike Cameron (.256 BA, 21 HRs, 38 SBs in 146 games)
RHP Brett Tomko (5-7, 4.92 ERA, 132 SOs in 33 games)
Infielder Antonio Perez (no info available)
& a player to be named later.

Questions:
-Griffey earlier turned down an 8 year, $148 mil extension with the Mariners. He paid 30 million smackers to get out of Seattle. Is it really that bad?
-Is this the best deal that Seattle could have gotten?
-Seattle has obviously made the decision to make Rodriguez their franchise player. Is this wise?

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it.” -Winston Churchill

Griffey was leaving.
He got to decide where to go.
He wanted to go to the Reds or Braves.
Thats the best deal they could’ve gotten.

-Frankie

“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion

My son’s politics is none of your damn business, you McCarthyite scum.


Elmer J. Fudd,
Millionaire.
I own a mansion and a yacht.

The last reason I had for ever paying money to enter that tax-payer robbing monstrosity of a ballpark is now gone. My guess is the citizens of Washington state would rather have paid Griffey’s salary to keep him here than subsidize the owners who are too cheap to know they just traded away their franchise.

In the immortal words of Joni Mitchell: “Don’t it always seem to go and you don’t know what you got til it’s gone.”


well well said the royal desiccation my political opponents back home always maintained
that i would wind up in hell and it seems they had the right dope
Don Marquis
archy interviews a pharaoh

I think Ken just desparately wanted to be on a team that has a chance of winning the pennant.


If you feel that you must suffer, then plan your suffering carefully–as you choose your dreams, as you conceive your ancestors.

According to his agent, Ken Griffey was willing to accept less money in exchange for the privelidge of playing in his old home town (Cincinatti).

BTW- How the hell do you spell priveledge?


JMCJ

This is not a sig.

Isn’t Griffey Senior a coach for the Reds? I thought that was the draw for Jr.


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Folks–

One n, two n’s, one t.

Cincinnati.

(I hate to nitpick, but it hadn’t been spelled right yet. :slight_smile: )

Dr. J

Griffey Jr. was already leaving the Mariners. Still, this has to be one of the most lopsided deals in baseball history. The M’s got basically nobody, and gave away everything. The Red’s now have a future Hall of Famer, and arguably the best all around ballplayer in baseball.

Seattle, I feel very, very sorry for you.

Adam


“Life is hard…but God is good”

ARG220 said

It may appear that way currently, but trades (Especially those involving minor league prospects) really should have a wait and see attitude. The same was said of the Randy Johnson deal, and it looks like Seattle may have actually been improved by the deal.

As for Griffey in Cincinnati, who here wants to make a bet that the NL ERA leader comes from the Central Division? Sosa, McGwire, Griffey, Bagwell. Let the good times roll.


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Well, it was either get something or let him play this year and walk after the season and get nothing.


“Tell me and I’ll forget; Show me and
I may remember; Involve me and I’ll
understand.” - Old Chinese Proverb

Just like almost every other baseball-loving kid in southwestern Ohio, Junior grew up fantisizing about one day playing for the Cincinnati Reds.

In the press conference yesterday he seemed almost in a daze and he said “I get to play on that field” (refering to Riverfr…er…Cinergy). Notice he said “I get to”…like it’s a priviledge and an honor. That’s touching and you probably have to have been a lifelong Reds fan to relate…

Here’s a man that accepted probably about half of his market value in order to play for the Reds. Reminds me of Johnny Bench foregoing the bigger bucks in order that he could stay with the Reds.

Is there any other team in baseball that inspires superstars to accept half-pay just for the chance to play for them?


Krispy Original – The original SDMB bad boy

After glancing at the stats of the four players Seattle got in the trade, I still say Cincinnati came out the huge winner.

But, we’ll wait and see.


“Life is hard…but God is good”

Oh yah they came out the huge winner, but he wouldn’t play for anyone else. As Pat Gillick said, that doesn’t leave them with alot of bargaining leverage.

Go to a car dealership and say I want this car, I am not leaving in my car, and I don’t want to buy a car anywhere else. See how much over the sticker price you pay!

-Frankie

“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion

Honestly, I thought someone was calling me a commie. Sorry folks, “born a snake handler, and I’ll die a snake handler.”

As for the Griffey trade and the question of which team made out better, it’s really impossible to tell right now, just as the talent of the players involved in the trade is, in a number of cases, irrelevant. If Seattle was poor (the franchise, that is), and Griffey was asking for a lot over the next few years, the Mariners probably factored the long term financial benifits/losses along with the fact that 30 is almost middle aged in baseball years.

It’s funny…there’s this really great baseball sim out there for your PC. It’s called “Baseball Mogul,” and it’ll make you realize that, while it’s tempting to stack your team with all-stars, and while it hurts your play to trade or release them, and while you’ll probably win your division for a few years straight, the financial burden those players put on you will leave some serious damage in its wake. It’s all about the long term.

pssst…Juniorbunk it’s also about the fact that Junior said he wouldn’t play anywhere but cincinnati. He wouldn’t sign with the mariners for all the money in the heavens!

-Frankie

“Mother Mercy, can your loins bear fruit forever?/Is your fecundity a trammel or a treasure?”
-Bad Religion