Junior? (Real-life story of a pregnant husband)

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Very cool. :smiley: I hope the baby does okay…

I hope they have a loving family together.

I hope so, too, but I’d venture to say that kids gonna have a lot to overcome to be “ok”.

I wonder if the testosterone may have any ill effects on the developing fetus?

I see upon reading the entire link that the husband stopped taking testosterone injections, so I guess that’s OK, and she seems pretty far along so I presume the doctor OKd it.

Only one way to find out, really.

I thought that transgendered people still couldn’t marry - that their legal ‘gender’ doesn’t change even after the operation. (I know I’m likely mistaken, but I really thought this.)
I think it’s a great story, but some of the details are confusing me a bit. Am I understanding that Thomas is legally a male, but still has female sex organs?

Where is the “legally x-gender” line drawn?

You’re sick. I like the way your mind works. :wink:

Gender is a social construct. So while Thomas is sexually female, his gender is male. Even pre-op transgendereds like to be referred to as the gender that they will soon sexually be. It’s confusing to write but there it is.

I wish the kid the best. He/she is going to have it rough no matter what, but especially rough if the parents aren’t uncommonly centered.

I believe this varies according to jurisdiction, and even by state in the US. Some places define it by how you were born and that can’t change; some places define it by chromosomes; some places define it by how you’re built; some places give you the choice. I remember reading that some people wanted a choice of ‘other’ as well.

Sunspace is correct, each state has different rules. Some allow you to change your legal gender after a sex change, others don’t. But in either case, you’re going to get conflicting results if you don’t allow same sex marriage. If you allow legal gender change, then a male-to-female transexual could legally marry a man. Uh-oh, same sex marriage! But if you require that male-to-female transexual to stay a legal male, they could marry a woman. Uh-oh, same sex marriage!

It appears that the female-to-male transsexual in this story was allowed to legally change his gender to male, and therefore was allowed to legally marry a woman.

It depends on area. I’m somewhat familiar with three cases, one in Texas, one in Florida and one related to immigration to the US. In those three the transexual person was declared to be legally their birth gender.

Personally, I think it is sweet.
Since the other option for this couple would be to involve a surrogate, with or without using Thomas’ genetic material, I think this is a much neater arrangement.

Since their daughter will grow up with two loving parents, a mum and a dad, I don’t really think this is going to be much harder to cope with than the baby of a straight couple who used a surrogate with donor gametes.

Your family is your own baseline for normal. If they love each other and the baby, and raise her to be a good person, everyone else can go hang.

Besides, Thomas and Nancy have as much right to keep the circumstances of their child’s conception and birth private as anyone else does.

I think the wording on the birth certificate might be interesting though…

It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In some US states, changing legal gender is impossible.

In other states, and in Canada, some sort of surgery is required, although the nature thereof varies from state to state and province to province. In some jurisdictions, the person must be rendered sterile; apparently this isn’t the case where this couple are from. This gentleman has had a mastectomy; since genital SRS on trans men is still very primitive, unsatisfying, and expensive, the requirements are often less stringent than for trans women.

And in other jurisdictions, such as Spain and the UK, one can change one’s legal gender without needing any specific surgery, with psychiatric statements that one is cross-living and will be doing so permanently.

That is one unusual family situation, but good for them.