Jury duty selection- is it really fair for a court to do this?

How would you shrink the juror pool? Make it so poor people don’t serve on juries?

So in your perfect world we should tie up the court system with people who have already resolved their issues in order to make jurors feel that they are doing something?

In civil cases, the parties pay for everything, including daily jury fees and even for the official court reporter. So yes. At least they did in my county. I suspect they do in most if not all of them.

Taking civil cases through a full trial is very expensive.

When I had jury duty were just given placards that exempted us from the meters; there was no parking lot.

Adding that yes, jury fees are paid by both parties in civil cases for every day the jury is present.

Whoever that Judge is, should get a medal. I have a feeling a phone call from a Justice “asking” an employer to pay the Juror and reminding the employer of their employee’s civic duty would be a rather short phone call!:eek:

“Our use of your time”

I rest my case a second time. This is what is wrong with government: judges and court officials who keep forgetting, due to entitlement, that they work for US, the people, and WE pay THEIR salaries. YOU are on OUR time, not yours, lets not make no mistake.
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Anyway, my Jury Duty drama as described in the OP is over, Id like to wait until the trial I was considered for is over to share more details, if that is OK--------

I recently watched a travel documentary where they were talking about a certain monastery which had acted as the local Court of Law for several centuries. A bridge nearby is known as el puente del perdón because it’s the point in the road from which you can first see the monastery, and when prisoners got there they’d start crying out “¡perdón, perdón!” - “I’m sorry, forgive me!”

It’s not as if they hadn’t previously noticed they’d been grabbed, called some names related to whatever they were accused of doing, tied up and put in a cart, but seeing the monastery is what made it real.

(And no, it wasn’t for the Inquisition)

The people actually using your time, though, are the plaintiffs and prosecutors and defendants, plus their associated lawyers. No, you DON’T pay the salary for most of these.

How would you feel if you or a close family member/friend were a criminal defendant, and your or their freedom depended mainly on the convenience of the jury? How would you feel if you were the victim of a fraud, a tort, or a crime, and obtaining justice or restitution depended on whether it was convenient for the members of the jury?

This is what is wrong: the overweening sense of entitlement among people who think their time is so much more valuable than justice.

…no.

Jury DUTY demands that you become part of the court system. You are on the court’s time.

How do you not understand this? I’m seriously asking- what makes you think that the parties to the lawsuit and the court are subservient to you?

Please provide a list of states that allow you to volunteer for jury duty. it is expressly not permitted in federal courts, to wit:
“While the federal courts appreciate your willingness in participating in jury service, you cannot volunteer to serve. Each judicial district must randomly select potential jurors from a fair cross-section of the community in the district, and discrimination in the selection process is prohibited”

Just chiming in to add that this varies from state to state. In some cases, the party demanding a jury pays a small fee for a “jury demand,” ($250 in Washington, if I recall correctly) but doesn’t pay any jury fees after that. Payment of the court reporter also varies by location.

It may be interesting to note that in Seattle, (and I assume other places) it is the defendant in civil cases that most often demands a jury. You hear corporations complain about jury verdicts when they get hit, but they are often the party that wanted a jury in the first place.

Look it up yourself.

Isn’t it the responsibility of the person making an assertion (e.g., “You can usually volunteer for jury duty”) to back up such an assertion?

I tried, and I could find a single state (New York) that permitted volunteers; some have statutory restrictions that would prohibit volunteers. The general school of thought seems to be that anybody who genuinely WANTS to be on a jury has some motive that may not be in the best interests of justice.

http://www.lacourt.org/division/jury/JR0223.aspx
*Civil Grand Jurors are not summoned, but may volunteer by completing an application form. *

Once you serve on the Civil Grand Jury you are exempt for years from regular Jury duty, and in fact long after that the judge will be sympathetic to pleas for getting out a regular jury.

Congratulations. So in one county in one state, you can volunteer for the civil grand jury. And slash2k found on his/her own that it’s possible to volunteer in the State of New York. That’s a long way from “You can usually volunteer”. And why are you being so combative? “Look it up yourself.”

You can volunteer for the GJ in all of CA. The most populous state. And New York, the 4th most populous state. And in Texas:In fact, the jury commissioners are permitted to select volunteers for grand jury service, again, regardless of their relationship to the commissioners

https://www.hccla.org/grand-jury/

The Second most populous state.

So, in the three of the most populous states you can volunteer (and you sorta can in Florida, it’s complicated). I am not going to run down the other 46, you can do that yourself.

Again; why the hostility?

Originally Posted by **August West **
Please provide a list of states that allow you to volunteer for jury duty.

Going thru 50 states and thousands of counties is a unreasonable and hostile demand. Thus, a hostile response.