Just fund the damn government already!

Currently hearing the pronouncements about the potential shut down. What a waste. Each time we get up to the brink, there is significant lost time - even if only 15 min per employee.

I really wish there were some sort of requirement that Congresscritters face significant penalties if they fail to timely fund some level of basic services. At the least, require that they all report, and lock the damn doors before they handle this most basic of their damned functions.

Sorry, but this touches a nerve.

Too bad there isn’t some way to lock them out of all of their financial resources.

Maybe their pay should be docked for any time that the government is shut down as long as it was not because of a veto. Whatever their salary works out to per day. (And not further broken down. If government unfunded for an hour, that’s a day’s pay.)

But, it would take a constitutional amendment to make it binding, so I guess not.

A real mess this time, w/ so many folk on/taking leave. And you know they are going to end up paying everyone anyway.

Just such an unnecessary waste. I know - just one of many. But it really pisses me off. And screw those BS 1 week extensions!

I think it was David Brinkley who said DC is the place where people do things badly that should never be done at all All the essential people stay on the job. .

The problem is the vast majority would describe their pay as “measly”. Their actual net worth is 6 or 7 figures.

Washington just doesn’t function anymore. This is not just gridlock; it’s extreme obstruction.

Another sign of a republic that is ailing.

How would you determine which services are basic (or essential)?

Just ask anyone in a government job. There are thousands upon thousands of them, and every single one will tell you exactly whose job is essential. Hey, that many people can’t all be wrong! Can they?

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What’s an ‘Essential’ Government Service?)

Feb 28, 2011 · by Stephen Reader
…Basically, during a shutdown, federal agencies must freeze all non-essential services. How does each organization decide what’s essential? And what does that word even mean to a government that rarely agrees on what’s important?

What’s essential

In the event of a shutdown, every government agency is responsible for determining which jobs under their umbrella fit the following criteria for what’s absolutely necessary to keep America running:

  • Providing for the national security, including the conduct of foreign relations essential to the national security or the safety of life and property.
  • Benefit payments and the performance of certain contract obligations
  • Medical care of inpatients and emergency outpatient care
  • Conducting activities to ensure continued public health and safety, including safe use of food, drugs and hazardous materials
  • Air traffic control and other transportation safety functions
  • Border and coastal protection and surveillance
  • Protection of federal lands, buildings, waterways, equipment and other property owned by the United States
  • Care of prisoners and other persons in the custody of the United States
  • Law enforcement and criminal investigations
  • Emergency and disaster assistance
  • Activities that ensure production of power and maintenance of the power distribution system
  • Activities essential to the preservation of the essential elements of the money and banking system of the United States, including borrowing and
    tax collection activities of the Treasury
  • Activities necessary to maintain protection of research property.

Employees who get rated “essential” are still allowed to report to work, whereas everyone else is barred from performing their duties, even if they offer to do so for free. Essential personnel get paid, but only retroactively, once funding for their particular agency has been restored.

Despite these guiding principles, the process an agency goes through to in identifying these functions and the employees who perform them is a highly subjective task.

What’s not

Since 1980, every government agency has been required to have a plan in the case of a shutdown, defining essential employees and operations. The Office of Management and Budget (OMB) mandated this in a memo that continues to be updated.

These plans are not available to the public, which is why there is so much speculation in advance of the expected fallout. We simply don’t know what’s considered essential these days.
. . .

Two more days this time.

And eventually they’ll agree to some cobbled together behemoth that no one has read the entirety of - hell, parts of which haven’t even been written before signing!

What other entity - of any size/nature - could budget in this manner?
Absofuckinglutely disgusting!

The wife is just thankful she got her new US passport a few days ago. (Not that she’s planning to go anywhere with it anytime soon.)

Are you kidding me? It’s not Congress’s fault this thing isn’t solved, it’s Donald Trump’s fault and, by extension, the GOP, which has been obstructionist since 2009.

‘Congresscritters.’ OMFG. There aren’t enough :roll_eyes: in the Universe for that one.

It’s the Republicans. It’s Donald Trump. It isn’t all of Congress.

In what’s become an American tradition, we’re a little over 24 hours out from the federal government shutting down. Just to make things more interesting, this time it’s in the middle of a surging global pandemic. And it’s all because Trump is throwing a tantrum over the size of the individual relief checks in the bill, even though his own Treasury Secretary is the one who negotiated the agreement.

His options right now are terrible: cave and sign the bill without getting the $2,000 checks he’s going on about; veto the bill and get overridden so fast it’ll make his head spin, or do nothing and let the government shut down to accomplish . . . what exactly I’m not sure.

Technically Congress could pass another continuing resolution to keep the government open for a few days, but the Senate in particular isn’t designed to work that fast and there’s no guarantee Trump will sign it.

Predictions?

Similar thread.

Gah, maybe mods can merge this one with that. I’ll check.

Similar indeed, with the ever so slightly ironic pique that the other thread is from Dec-19.

And reports are that he signed it, so the whole thread has been overtaken by events.

Moderating

Merged duplicate thread. But better still if it isn’t necessary after all.

It was from December 18, 2020. A few days older.