Just smile and be nice to the crazy person (long)

As you know I am an RN. Yesterday I had to deal with one of the most psychotic and irrational visitors I have ever encountered.

My patient was a man who weighs between 450 and 500 (rough estimate cause he wasn’t able to go to the loading dock to be weighed) He was admitted for cellulitis of the abdominal skin fold. He has a fat apron that hangs down to his knees and the skin in that area was infected so he was here for IV antibiotics. Ok fine.

About 3 am he started to complain of abd cramping so the Dr was notified and an order obtained for some motrin and he would see him first thing in the morning. Patient took the motrin went to sleep and all was fine.

I went in and assessed the pt at 8:30 while he was sitting on the edge of the bed getting ready to eat breakfast. All went fine, he told me the cramping was a bit worse but he was still hungry and wanted to eat. He also said he had an umbilical/ventral hernia (pointing to the area between his belly button and sternum) and had been told that it could be contributing to the pain. I looked at that area and didn’t see anything unusual. I told him I would come back after breakfast and get a good look at the affected area in his groin. He was fine with that and I went on to my next patient.

At 9 am his wife show up with a bazillion questions and wants to know why hubby has been laying there suffering all night and nothing had been done. I told her that was not true and reviewed the orders received in the middle of the night. She asked if I had looked at his hernia and I told her it looked unremarkable. I based this conclusion from looking at the area that the man had pointed out to me.

She wanted me to call the amittting doctor and also to call a surgeon that had seen him on a prior admit. I told her I couldn’t call the surgeon cause it was up to the attending doctor to call consulting doctors but that I would call the patient’s attending doctor, which I did. He said he was on another floor and would be in very soon.

She came up to the desk as I was finishing the call so I told her the doctor had been called and would be in soon. She again brought the topic of her hubby’s hernia. Now it turns out that man actually has a hernia below his belly button that is hidden by the massive flap of fat. I did not see that when I first examined him cause he was sitting on the side of the bed and not laying flat. Also hernias can bulge in and out depending on the position of the patient. She asked how I could not see it and thinking she was talking about the area above his belly button I replied, “well if he has a small hernia there, it may not always be apparent and would be difficult to assess due to his size and weight”

She replied “Ok now, I see” and went back to the pt room. The next thing I know I am being contacted by the administrative officer. The AO is directly under the Director of Nursing and investigating nurse/patient problems is one of job requirements. The pt’s wife had reported that “Cindi was rude, incompetant and refused to call the doctor stating that her husband was just a fat man who got himself in his own mess” At least 5 other people overheard my conversation with the wife and assured her that I had said no such thing and in fact I had displayed remarkable calm and poise in dealing with this woman who was clearly acting inappropriately.

I also got a call from patient’s mother who claimed to be a nurse but had in fact worked as a nurses aide about 25 years ago. She called me a dozen nasty names and told me that “she knew what I said about her son” I told her those statements were not true and she replied “oh so you’re rude, incompetant and a liar eh?” Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree eh?

Another nurse was assigned to take care of the patient who had not opened his mouth during this whole thing. I went in the room to care for the patient in the other bed and the wife said “I am ordering you to leave this fucking room NOW YOU IGNORANT BITCH” I told her she didn’t have the power to order me from the room and if she would excuse me, I needed to take care of the other patient.

This woman then lunged at me and proceeded to chest butt me toward the door. I called for help and told her firmly that I would not allow her to continue to verbally and physically assault me and I would have security remove her from the room if she didn’t knock it off right now. Her assault on me was witnessed by several other staff members and doctors. She was told to leave me alone and not address me in any manner or even look at me. The patient in the other bed was moved to another room.

Several other family members showed up and then they proceeded to hover in the doorway talking very loudly about me by name to anyone who would listen. The they started to make rhyming games with my name (stupid cindi, windy cindi, got her ass in a whole lot of trouble now cindi, I wonder if she has the french disease, she’s a french bitch, she needs some bitch pills, no she needs some anti-bitch pills) I listened to it for hours and then said to a co worker in a voice loud enough for them to hear that I would go home with the knowledge that at least two of us knew the truth and I would sleep with a clear conscience. I wondered how the wife could sleep at all. I then told the charge person that either that family needed to keep their comments low enough to where they wouldn’t be heard in the hall or keep the door closed because I considered that harrassment.

All in all it was an absolutely hellish day. I never at any time did or said anything wrong or inappropriate and I had done everything the family had asked me to do. This whole debacle resulted from something she said I said. If I said what I wanted to say it would have been “shut up you ignorant bitch and stop making trouble where there is none” I know some people are not happy unless they are surrounded by chaos. I know she has problems that I know nothing about. I know that when people are out of control in some areas they overcompensate in others. Knowing all this, I tried to be professional and compassionate and caring; look how well that worked out for me.

It is shit like this that makes me want to quit the nursing profession altogether.

Oh, Mermaid, you poor thing…no wonder there’s a nursing shortage. My sympathies…how’s Merman’s knees, if I can ask?

What was the patient saying all this time?

That sucks that you got treated that way, Mermaid. If it helps, just remember that:

a) You did the right thing in dealing with this patient; and,
2) You showed a remarkable amount of restraint in dealing with the family. (I can only hope that I’d be able to show even half as much class in a similar situation.)

Good on you, Mermaid. In spite of the treatment these people gave you, I’m sure there are a huge number of other patients you’ve helped who’ve appreciated your professionalism… it’s just that the jerks tend to be louder.

Wow, congratulations for keeping your cool in that situation. I hope they didn’t stir up any administrative trouble for you - my goodness, I think you deserve a raise!

And how old were the relatives? I stopped using rhymes to insult when I was in the fifth grade. Windi cindi? :rolleyes:

ivylass his knees are much better now after steroid injections, new medications and better knee braces. Thanks for asking.

Guinastasia the man sat there like a statue the whole time. Since the conversation with the wife took place at the nurses station, he didn’t have anything to add. But he didn’t seem to believe me when I disputed the comments attributed to me. When wife was chest butting me out of the room he just sat there and didn’t say a damn word. I honestly think he is afraid of her. I know I was.

Holy catfish. Wow. That’s horrible. I’m amazed at your self-control. Well done. Go out for dinner or buy yourself a diamond necklace or something- you deserve it.

Can you get crazy lady charged with assault?

I am seriously going to discuss with the risk manager the possibility of filing assault charges on this women. The risk manager is a woman who has both a PhD in nursing and is a lawyer.

I would not want to gain anything from this action other than to bring the point home to the woman that you can’t just attack a person because you are angry.

BTW one of the most hurtful things about this is that I am overweight and thus very sensitive about the word “fat”. I never even use the word obese when discussing a patient. I would never in a million years call someone fat, even if they do weigh 500 pounds.

Crikey, that’s pretty far up there on the Bad Day Anecdote list. People in the medical profession do rack up some impressive ones, that’s for sure.

And it inspires the thought: with a healthy family environment like that, I’m sure the patient will get even healthier!

It’s sort of impressive how skilled some folks are at making life worse than it needs to be. I sometimes think there must be medals awarded for it that I never got the memo on.

Are your superiors backing you up on this, or did this bitch manage to get you in hot with them too?

The woman should have been removed from the hospital after she assaulted you, and not allowed back in. After the rest of the family members were talking smack in your obvious hearing range, his right to have visitors should have been pulled. If they weren’t happy about that, he’s welcome to sign out AMA or to arrange transport to another hospital.

(What’s that? Your insurance/Medicaid won’t pay at any other hospital? Should have thought about that before you decided to be an asswrench and assault a nurse.)

I believe everyone has the right to be treated in a hospital, but I also think the hospital has the right to set the terms. Everything happened here exactly as it should have–patient complained of abdominal pain, mentioned a hernia, you mentioned the hernia to the doctor who acted appropriately. I would never fault anyone for missing a hernia in a 500-pound patient.

Just one more piece of evidence that nurses aren’t paid nearly enough.

Dr. J

I’m sorry Mermaid but all I could think of while reading this was “This man has a wife?”

Sorry to hear about that Mer. Sounds to me like you did all of the right things. I hope you can charge her with assault because she does need to learn a lesson about proper behavior. Perhaps she will be sentenced to attend anger management courses.

Stories like these are what made me decide to not go into nursing. Nurses don’t get paid enough to have to deal with this crap. Doctor J is right about what should have happened. You need all of the support you can get. The administration should be able to tell the difference between customer service and allowing the customer to walk all over trained professionals.

Yeah! Why would anyone marry someone who was overweight? That’s crazy. :rolleyes:

Patients who are that profoundly overweight usually have an enabler, often a wife but sometimes (in the case of younger patients) a mother.

One of our hospital’s most famous patients, who I saw on about three different services, weighed in at about 1150 (yes, there are four digits in that number) when they brought him into the ER. (He was known around the hospital as “Tiny”.) His wife, who was carrying around a few hundred extra pounds herself but looked like Calista Flockheart by comparison, didn’t see the need to get him any medical attention until he became simply unable to breathe due to his bulk.

He was in the unit for about eight months, comatose for most of it. I think they finally got him down to about 550 and sent him home, but he died shortly thereafter.

This was very sad, and in my opinion, criminal on the part of his wife. This man was probably unable to feed himself at 600 or 700 pounds, so she had to be feeding him enough to not only maintain that bulk but eventually nearly double it. (We calculated the number of calories this would require; I forget the number, but it was astonishing.)

I helped change this man’s Foley catheter a few times; after that, I no longer fear Hell. I won’t go into any details, but it wasn’t pretty. I will say that Tiny helped me learn one of the most important lessons of medical school–that if you want to make it in medicine, you have to learn to laugh and cry at the same time.

Dr. J

My reaction was quite similar. “This woman has a husband?”

:stuck_out_tongue:

Maybe being married to her drove him to find what comfort and compensation he could in food.

I’m with Taran on that one. What a BITCH! I can’t believe she yelled at you for trying to help another patient, swore at you, then chest bumped you out the door? I haven’t had anyone do that to me since fucking seventh grade. Couldn’t you have put something in their food to give them the shits or make them piss blue or something? You do work at a hospital.

It’s a real shame that people like this exist in the world. I spent about three months dealing with doctors and getting the runaround for a situation that to this day I still don’t know what the deal is, but although I was angry and pissed throughout the entire thing, I just smiled an nodded and kept my bitching to outside the doctor’s office. You’re entrusting these people with your life, the last thing you want to do is get them pissed.

Congratulations on handling the situation well. I for one would have bitch slapped several of the extended family. Take a nice, looong bath, eat a nice dinner, and take it easy. You definitely deserve it. And if you see these people again, the second they act up, have their asses thrown out.

Jarbaby, I’m not trying to be a total ass but someone who weighs 500+ pounds is not just “overweight”. They are very seriously ill and will not live long. It’s something like meeting a nice girl that has terminal cancer and a few weeks to live. They may be a great person to spend time with but marriage?

The idea that he gained weight after marriage didn’t occur to me but seems likely.