Proof of the above: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp
Maybe in the “If your not against it, your for it” sense.
His stance is pretty clear; He’s not pro-abortion, but on the other hand he doesn’t want to take anothers right to have one away from them. He stated that he doesn’t want to inject his religious leanings into someone elses life and or decisions. Kind of silly really, since a lot of decisions he’s going to make will be based on faith. 
If he’s elected that is.
So, to wrap this up, Kerry would not choose abortion, but would like to leave that choice out there for others. A little wishy-washy, but not unlike a majority of the politicians out there.
If he, in fact, did vote to keep partial birth abortions legal then I think the Church could excommunicate him on those grounds.
Uh oh, looks like we’ve got two heretics on our hands. What is a Catholic voter to do?
Further analysis of Bush’s heresy can be found here.
Inasmuch as he’s not Catholic, excommunicating Mr. Bush is meaningless. And he’s already not eligible to receive the Eucharist.
So, problem solved!
Yeah, but do you really want to be voting for a heretic?
Daniel
Actually, isn’t it current Catholic belief that “The child of a heretic is not a heretic.”? In other words, the only people who can be guilty of heresy are those Catholics who choose to reject some fundamental tenent of Catholicism. Their children, on the other hand, are just ignorant of Catholic teachings, and so they’re not at fault for that ignorance.
While Bush has often been compared to a child, he is, chronologically speaking, an adult, and presumably also an adult with some knowledge of the differences between Catholicism and Protestantism.
Ahem.
Right, obviously, but he was never Catholic, and therefore couldn’t have turned away from Catholicism. If you look at the papal bull “Unitatus Redintegratio”, which is, I think, still operative policy on this issue, you’ll see it says (bolding mine, footnotes removed):
Ditto to what has been said earlier. Finidng a politican who agrees with the entire spectrum of RCC social teaching is a fruitless task.
http://www.seamless-garment.org/index.shtml
Go here and see how few candidates would meet the criteria
Hell just pick the last one…
For those here who understand Catholic procedures — Is it true that there is no official Vatican position shown in the Vatican’s responses? If the response IS a position, then I would suppose that Balestrieri’s pending case asking that Kerry and the others be excommunicated, for all real purposes has ended — or is this still an open question?
From Catholic News Service -
But note the ‘points’ made in this guy’s article —
Right, but does it say that “children” includes “adults”? I’d be happy to concede the point if there is some indication that any adult Christian who was born outside the Catholic faith is outside the boundaries of what can be labeled heresy? Since the doctrine you’re quoting appears to depend upon the rationale that children outside the faith don’t know any better, I don’t see how that would exclude an adult who has learned of the Catholic Church’s teachings and chosen to reject them.
That document is the basis of the Catholic ecumenical movement, and it seems to include adults. In fact, if you look at what I quoted "The children who are born into these Communities and who grow up believing in Christ… ", it talks about them growing up believing in Christ, so we’re talking about adults here. And if you look on at the rest of the paragraph, it says:
Considering the circumstances as I understand them, those Catholics who continue to deny the wrongness of abortion after being warned, may be considered “obstinate sinners” (see quote in post 51 from “one Vatican official”) IF that is the case, how would this classification square with canon 915 –
http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/canon/c0840-1165.htm#par1907
Anyone have an opinion?
[rul=http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/20/politics/campaign/20catholic.html?pagewanted=all]yes
and
Daniel
Also, Tiger, I’m not sure which specific grave sin you believe Kerry is obstinately committing. May I presume that what constitutes a grave sin in Italy is the same thing as what constitutes a grave sin in the US, and that if the Vatican itself doesn’t prevent Italian politicians from receiving communion, that’s a good sign that those Italian politicians aren’t so prevented by canon 915?
This would probably be a good time to sheepishly admit you were duped by an overeager and deceitful activist.
Daniel
What are you talking about? And what have you been talking about for most of this thread?
Uh, the thread title and the OP? The thread title is based on one activist’s deceit, since repudiated by the church.
Daniel
Well I suggest you look at 'em oncce again. The title has a question mark and the OP says “seems.” As in * This article, from Catholic World News, seems to indicate that Kerry has been excommunicated from the Catholic Church. If true, what affect will excommmunication have on Catholic votes in today’s world?*
I suspect you’re still sore about the Bush humpback thread – as indicated in your ssecond post in this one —
And if this is it – I wasn’t “mocking” you Daniel — I was having fun with the idea of Bush’s hump feeding him answers – it wasn’t about you. Relax.