Hell, it’s troubling enough that 14 year olds are hanging around Hollywood parties with drunk actors. Which I’m aware is a thing that happens, but it shouldn’t.
That’s not to blame the kid, by the way. If you’re hosting a party with alcohol and some 14 year old kid is hanging around the drunks, the problem isn’t on the kid.
Very sorry to hear this, as I’ve long admired KS’s acting. I also regret the inevitable conflation for some idiots of “gay” with “child molester.”
I’m not sure how he was supposed to handle it. “I apologize but I’m totally not gay.” Or “I apologize but we are just going to keep pretending I’m not gay.” Taking responsibility is confirming the rumors. He could either take responsibility and confirm the rumors or deny responsibility and be even worse.
I wonder why it is that everyone seems to assume that the accuser is telling 100% the truth all the time.
Although personally I don’t remember any rumors about juveniles there have been stories about him hitting on guys in the theater very aggressively.
In this case Kevin Spacey seems to believe him. I tend to believe that he doesn’t remember a drunken incident from that long ago. But he is still seems to be saying “I don’t remember it but that sounds like me.”
Thank you for this. That was insightful.
Interesting that him being aggressive is a “thing” because I discussed this story with Mrs. Cups and she has a “friend of a friend” story of KS coming on to him.
This seems to be a trend
He didn’t need to mention it at all. He could have left that whole part out. It was unnecessary.
That’s definitely not the case. Where do you get that? In this specific case anyway, Spacey owned up to it.
Oops. Sorry I somehow read it as a new one. The tweet about the Old Vic made me think this was new. The Old Vic tweet even though not a direct accusation from a victim does make it seem that there may well be more to follow.
I was incorrect though. Thanks.
He is rumored to be gay for decades. He has repeatedly refused to admit to it. He issues an apology for aggressively coming on to a male. Does he try to issue the apology around the elephant or print it right on the side?
It’s self evident if he just apologized. There was no need to add any of that extra stuff. It was a clear attempt to mitigate what he did and most people saw through it.
Yeah, how does he apologize for hitting on a male without outing himself? If he said nothing about being gay, that would have left it even more confusing and weird.
It doesn’t make him a bank robber either but that’s not the point.
I’m not so sure about that. If he wasn’t openly gay before, then admitting he hit on a teenage boy essentially confirms it. This would have been his “coming out” statement either way. The only other option was complete denial of both things.
It’s too bad that owning up to his shitty behavior required opening up about his previously hidden sexuality, but at least he owned up to it and apologized. Not giving him a pass, of course. It’s just better than outright denial or victim blaming.
It’s a sad world we live in when we can’t expect people to read a statement by a man apologizing for sexually assaulting another man and understand that the first man is either gay or bi without an overt declaration.
Yeah it’s a no win situation for him. Not that he deserves a win. Either he either says he’s gay with the apology and people accuse him or deflecting from the real issue or he apologizes and doesn’t come out and he gets hounded for stil denying his sexuality. Like he’s only gay when he gets so drunk he doesn’t remember.
Spacey’s apology is half-hearted at best.
I could legitimately say that I am horrified by Rapp’s story and I’m sorry for the feelings he’s carried with him for years. Because - and this is an important point - I am not the person who did those things to him.
But when you are the person who harmed somebody, you don’t just express sympathy for how bad they feel. You take responsibility for what you did and you apologize for doing it.
Here’s what a real apology would have been:
We could nit pick Spacey’s apology all day, but I’m not seeing that his was bad. Was it the best apology possible? Probably not. But I think it was fine. Saying he was “horrified” at his behavior is good enough for me.
Unless he really doesn’t remember then that would be a phony apology. I might remember 3 things from1986 and none of those involved alcohol.
Threadjack: That’s how I’ve always felt about the Polanski thing. If you don’t know, her mother dropped her off at his house, knowing she would be alone with him.
The woman he did this to (I know her name but will not use it here out of respect for her dignity) said that she’d had consensual anal sex before, and at that point, I knew that she’d been previously abused because there are an awful lot of things 13-year-olds just don’t do otherwise, and that is one of them. 