That show jumped the shark well before jumping on the morality train was an issue.
A bit tangential, but what makes you so sure that Rapp has carried “feelings” (of some unspecified nature, but presumably traumatic) with him for years?
I mean, from the time I was about 15 until I was an adult, I was often, very often, accosted by gay men. More than onceI was physically accosted, much as Mr. Rapp apparently was.
That’s what happens when you live in NYC a block away from a strip of gay bars, many of them back room bars filled with guys out cruising, and you walk around the neighborhood at night.
I’m not traumatized, I don’t have any “feelings” about it one way or another, and I’ve forgotten just about all of the incidents.
I don’t know that Mr. Rapp wasn’t scarred by this incident, but I don’t know that he was, either.
Here’s a quote from a BuzzFeed article:
By men who laid you down and climbed on top of you?
Any link? I just ask because Netflix got a lot of media to go along with their story they only finally decided to cancel it light of the accusations against Spacey. The story I saw admitted they’d been ‘considering’ ending with Season 6 but claimed the decision was only made and communicated to cast members today.
As for Spacey’s statement, there would I believe have been furious criticism either way, if he took the opportunity to explain his sexual orientation or not.
Either way it’s a non-straight* man who doesn’t deny he came on to an underage teenage boy. Not a pedophile, but it still touches on a highly sensitive stereotype. So of course he’s going to be the object of more fury than if it had been a teenage girl though of course he’d have gotten (and deserved) heat for that also. But in that case the orientation announcement would have been clearly unnecessary, which I think hints that the closest to correct answer is that Spacey’s orientation statement was still unnecessary if it was teenage boy. The problem is what happened to Rapp. Spacey talking about himself tends to make it about him.
*keeping in mind Spacey isn’t just saying he’s gay but that he’s been bisexual but now ‘chooses’ to live as a gay man. That’s not a crowd pleasing statement either, putting choose and gay in the same sentence.
There are reddit comments going back years with people alluding to things like that. This is just the start of the stories that will be coming out about him.
I’ve heard the same thing and I’m hardly hooked into entertainment back channels. I think you are right.
I misread employment as enjoyment, I hope you’re amused, if not, sorry. KS was obviously bricking it ( shittin’ bricks, a colloquialism for fear anxiety) and was hoping to manage the situation in an impression of self assuredness, he’s obviously not fooled anyone. I wonder if Bill M is crapping his pants, likes young women all disoriented and affable at “parties” horny old goats the lot of them
Lay down? No. Grabbed me, held me, attempted to kiss me, grabbed my crotch, yes. But I managed to stay vertical.
But if Spacey truly did not remember it (which is not unreasonable given that it was not sex, but merely a solicitation over thirty years ago at a drunken party) then his statement is admirable in the sense that he is saying that if Rapp said he did it, then it must be true despite the fact that he (Spacey) does not recall it.
An apology made just to apologize when one does not remember, and therefore cannot truly be remorseful, is not admirable at all and is not a true apology.
I intended to post similar thoughts. You probably said it better than I would.
Because it wan’t even close to out of character for him to have done something like that, back then at least. If someone were to have made that claim about me, I would have told them that they were very mistaken to put it mildly.
Spacey’s brother, a limo driver and Rod Stewart impersonator in Boise, Idaho, is now saying that their father was a neo-Nazi who sexually abused his children, with their mother’s knowledge.
I had completely forgotten about this Family Guy moment from over a decade ago.
So, another open secret?
His brother spoke about all that maybe 10 years ago. That is nothing new that is being revealed now.
That’s been my experience too. How scarred could you be by such a trivial incident? Sure, you might remember it as unpleasant. But scarred? Come on now. Actual rape I could understand, that must really scar you. But this?
Maybe, but that could just be a reference to Spacey’s villainous characters, particularly the one in* Se7en.*
How can you say how someone should feel about something that happened to them?
Yes, it’s one thing to keep an open mind about things, but if a young teenager is sexually assaulted by an adult, it’s not unreasonable to take him at his word when he says it was traumatizing.
Boy, that is one hell of a read! :eek:
Sunny Daze in da House!