Kids are savages.

…There’s not much more I can say about this. Savages. Why?

Despite the opinions of some philosophers (Rousseau?) and popular authors (Children are from Heaven), I think it’s accurate to say that children are born heathens and savages, and must be gently, steadily, deliberately shaped and trained to be considerate, thoughtful, and “socialized”.

I homeschool my children, so I have a great deal of contact with them during the day, every day. I am adamant that they show respect to everyone they must deal with (with sane limits - they don’t have to be polite to someone who wants to hurt them) - to apologise for hurts deliberate and incidental - and to help make hurts better when they cause them. I still catch them being cruel. I can only imagine how it gets worse in larger, less supervised groups.

Of course, groups of people, children or adults, have a certain kind of insanity built in. People in groups seem more likely to commit acts that singly, they would not consider.

This entire generation should be eliminated as too far gone. We’ll do better with our grandkids.

I sorta resent this. But yes, many in my generation are irredemable fuckwad asstwitters.

That said, I misread the subject of the OP as “kids are sausages” and yet, still clicked…

It’s an awful situation.

I can’t help be fascinated, though, that someone apparently took the time to actually weight the rock used in the assault. I can think of no other explanation for the article’s description of the rocks as being “as heavy as 12.7 kilograms.”

Please, please don’t paint all of us teenagers with the same brush. Please.

Am I annoying? Sure. Do I need a better work ethic? Definitely. Am I capable of murder? Would I commit murder, even if I was? Fuck no.

They are going to really need that weight as part of the trial. The characteristics of the murder weapon are critical. The prosecution can’t just turn to the jury and say: “These boys killed him with a big rock. I am not sure how big, but let me tell you it pretty large.”

I believe the children are our future.

That’s why we must destroy them now before they destroy us first.

What’s the big deal? Adults of all creeds, colors, nationalities, sizes, ages, and social statuses do awful, horrible, horrifyingly nasty things to other adults and children on a much more regular basis. THis pales in comparison, honestly.

Sam

Sadly, there are way too many parents already working on ruining them before we ever hear about them. :mad:

Yes, children will behave as evil little satan-spawn unless those whose hormone-frenzied erratic copulation take a proactive role an shepherding the little buggers.

Believe it or not, I love my daughter. I won’t take any shit from her, either, and she knows it. :wink:

Alternatively, it could have been a metricization of an english measure. You get weird results that way. Someone says “Eh, around 25 pounds.” and you get someone translating it exactly into metric.

Amen! Just think back to generations past, when no one was bullied and physically abused, and the children all walked around holding hands and writing poetry expressing their platonic affection for one another.

IMHO, the only difference is that nowadays the little bastards are more likely to be prosecuted, instead of getting a wink and a “kids will be kids.”

Actually about 28 pounds - get it…two stone.

That’s all crap. This is just a matter of improved communications making things look like there’s a spike.

You think we were any better? Or the generations before us? It is to laugh.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, let’s make sure the present generation procreates first, *before * eliminating them. That way we’ll have grandkids to do better with.

It usually works out. Kids are savage, but also stupid. If they weren’t so stupid, we’d have no hope of reining in the brutishness and cruelty of the average 8-12-year-old. When kids grow up, they (usually) develop enough of a conscience to prevent them from destroying society, plus they are (usually) smart enough to keep the next generation of shallow little thugs under control. And the circle of life continues.

Nothing new under the sun.

I agree with you and M. Rousseau—except that I am still a heathen and quite happy about it.

But the savage part—I was beaten up by my wee schoolmates on a pretty regular basis. All that happened was a scolding or a “kids will be kids!” If my coworkers ganged up on me and held me down while my boss punched me in the stomach every morning, I’d have a dandy lawsuit on my hands.

Kids. Hated 'em when I was one and don’t feel much different now.

I understand what those of you in the “they’re no worse than we were” camp are saying, but we never walked around with our asses hanging out of our pants.