Kinship survey

Hey Everybody,

How much of you are there in your family, genetically speaking?

I realize that the question as it stands is almost meaningless. Most apes share most of their DNA with each other and a lot of other critters. However, disregarding the boring details (this is IMHO, right?) roughly speaking one shares 50% of their DNA with their father and 50% with their mother’s DNA. Each bit of your DNA came from either your mom or your dad, even if that bit would’ve been the same from either, we can still attribute it to one or the other. Let’s use the “where it came from” rather than “what it is” as a definition of genetic relation. I guess more like lineage or consanguinity than pure genetics.

Now if I remember my bio correctly your siblings on average have about 50% shared genetics with you (although siblings, and most other relatives, unlike parents, can have vastly varying amounts of shared genetics). Half-siblings average at 25%, as do grandparents. Aunts and uncles should average about 25% as well. Same generation first cousins, great grandparents, great aunts and great uncles about 12.5%. First cousins once removed and great great * are 6.25%. Same generation second cousins 3.125%. Same generation third cousins average 0.78125%. You get the idea (And if I got any math wrong, correct me, or not, whatever :slight_smile: )

I very recently lost my half-brother, and this is probably the reason I’m making this post. I feel fairly lonely in the biological family department for my age (early 20s) and even though my friends/family are awesome, I’m still aware of the fact that my genealogical tree is kind of sparse. In addition to the fact that I am one of two living people in my family with my last name, you can understand how I can get curious about how I stack up as compared to other people. So I decided to count up roughly how much of me there is in my living family. To simplify I came up with an arbitrary unit of lineage simply called ‘points’.

Let’s say I am 100 points
My mother - 50 points
One grandparent ~ 25 points
Two biological half-aunts ~ 2x12.5 = 25 points
Five half-first-cousins ~ 5x6.25 = 31.25 points
Seven half-first-cousins-once-removed ~ 8x3.125 = 25 points
Only two half-second-cousins ~ 2x1.5625 = 3.125 points
Misc including several half/quarter-third-cousins ~ Let’s say 5 points

Adds up to about 264 points of traceable family across three continents, with 150 being in North America, 60 in Asia (with about 90% of that in Middle East and 10% in Siberia) and the rest in Europe. There’s about 2.64 of me out there, counting me, or at least that would be the average expected value.

Of course I’m not expecting everybody to start adding up their entire living kin (unless you have time to kill), but I’m really curious so what do you think your ballpark figure would be? Also your age bracket would be an interesting thing to consider in context.

Who’s up for it?

Cheers,

Groman

Uhm… how much are siblings? Nephews? Second nephews?

Mother.
Her parents.
As of the 1st of this month, one great-aunt.
Four uncles.
Something like 30 cousins of my parents (one great-aunt had 14 kids…).
12 cousins.
Second cousins galore.
One nephew.
Two second-nieces.

I know four of my thirtheenth-uncles. They have given me a total of 8 something-nephews so far and their father is alive, so another bitsy.

There’s several cousins of my grandmother’s on Dad’s side. Also a bunch of relatives on the other grandma’s side whom I don’t know (her dad got estranged from his two brothers).

I’m 38, Hispanic (half-Basque to boot) and understand that Scots and Poles are about as bad as the Basque when it comes to tracking lineages through as many generations as need be.

The points are the same as the DNA %'s above, but I noticed I forgot nephews.

Siblings - 50
Nephews/Nieces - 25
If you use the term ‘second nephew’ the same way I use the term ‘second nephew’ (Your first cousin’s child - first cousin once removed) then - 6.25
If you use the term ‘second nephew’ to mean grand-nephew then - 12.5

Without counting second cousins or parents’ first cousins you are at about 500, and it seems there would be a lot of younger people in your family. I only have 8 traceable relatives of childbearing age or younger even including second nieces and second cousins. I guess my future kids are not going to have that much family on my side. :slight_smile: