The previous Kuzari thread was closed. Then we talked about pascal and I stupidly referenced Kuzari. Then a whole debate ensued. Apparently, people (me included) want to continue to discuss kuzari. I will briefly outline the Kuzrari proof and the “flaws” that some people tried to attack it with. The proof has three steps:
What a nation [or a large group of people] believes about it’s own national history, a nationally-experienced, nationally-commemorated event is a certain amount of evidence that the event happened. Why? First, because there is a chain of witnesses back to the event itself. I believe because I heard it from my father, who heard it from his father, etc., all the way back to the sinai events. So it is a hearsay from of evidence, national hearsay. Second, we can point to true beliefs about nationally-experienced, nationally commemorated events. That shows that beliefs about these types of events are evidentiary.
The question, of course, is: How reliable is this form of evidence? The answer is we don’t know. So let’s look around; let’s see if this form of evidence has ever been wrong. It hasn’t (as of yet). Does this mean that the evidence is infallible? It does not. It merely means that it might be infallible. It means that we have no right to assume that it is fallible.
This form of evidence exists for the sinai miracles.
Here are the few flaws mentioned in the previous threads:
a) Couldn’t the history have evolved over time? Response: Yes it could have. There could also be flying-speghetti-monstors that force people to believe false histories. Merely saying something could be true isn’t enough. You have to show me that national history can evolve. Show me one case, and you win the debate.
b) There is an absence of archeological evidence for the sinai miracles. Response: i) even if we assume that God always makes sure to leave archeological evidence for his miraculous actions, absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence; ii) there is archeological evidence which backs up much of the exodus story, so you can’t call it a full absence of evidence; iii) I am not an expert in archeology, so you are asking the wrong person. I am a home-made expert in Kuzari, so feel free to discuss kuzari issues.