But they (the State) would still be 300 million short over the next 2 years. And even if the court had not blocked it, Bevin’s plan would cost more, not less.
I mean, you (not you, personally, or course) tell me a plan costs more than you can spend…I get that. We should get the government we can afford. You tell me we need to do things differently in order to pay for it, and those things may have consequences for real people. Sucks, but I get it.
But if doing it differently costs MORE…WTF? And in a huff, you impose work rules that will not address costs, WTELF?
Sounds like the cost was never the issue. Just a red herring.
Another Kentuckian checking in. The only remotely nice thing I can say about Governor Bevin is I agree with someone earlier who said this isn’t about race. Bevin isn’t Jeff Sessions or Roy Moore. If he were a virulent racist I don’t think he would have chosen a black woman as a running mate or have adopted black children. I would like to be right about this.
That being said, he is one of those politicians who believe poverty is a moral failing (I think I may be repeating someone else in this thread who has said that). And of course, these criteria he and the General Assembly have put in place are a way to humiliate the working poor. And as demonstrated above, most poor folks in our Commonwealth aren’t “too sorry” to work.
My grandfather was a smart man, maybe my best friend. I am thankful that he didn’t live to see Matt Bevin and Donald Trump. Anyway, he often told me that a person who is dumb and knows he’s dumb is harmless but a moron who thinks he is smart is terribly dangerous. Matt Bevin is the latter. He’s smarmy and condescending and laughably clueless. Matt Bevin is pretty much an honest to goodness piece of shit as a human being. To quote another old saying, he keeps letting his alligator mouth overrun his jaybird ass
People who don’t/can’t volunteer would lose their coverage due to noncompliance. The volunteering wasn’t important at all. Any arbitrary hurdle would do, but calling it a “work requirement” and talking about “volunteering” makes it sound virtuous.
Maybe. Or having able-bodied people actually do something productive in society in order to receive benefits from that society is another way it sounds.
Then I’m sure you’ll soon join liberals and progressives in supporting UBI and universal health care! Hell, if you feel particularly radical, support socialism! I’m sure those groups would be glad to have you!
As with other related topics, there seems to be an underestimate here of how valuable time is and how little the poor tend to have. Kind of like the “just save” argument.
Making someone do something for a few hours a week to earn something is “punishing them”? Strange, guess I’m punishing my children when I make them do chores for allowance money.
Abled-bodied poor people have so little time to work or volunteer or look for work or go to school? What are they doing all day that takes up all that valuable time?
raises hand This able-bodied person discovered that volunteer organizations in Miami were happy to take her work, but those in Philadelphia weren’t: all they would accept was my money. I expect I’m not the only person who’s run into that problem. It wasn’t lack of time or of desire to volunteer on my side: it was them who weren’t interested.