I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. One pot can have many flavors that mix together and complement each other.
BTW, predictit.org has egg on its face. Last night bets were 78% for Conway. The pollsters also did a piss poor job with their likely voter model. The polls were off by 9 points.
Were there any polls that asked about all of the statewide races in one poll? I can find a few polls on the downballot races but none of the ones I saw asked about Conway and Bevin. It’d be interesting to see if the polls also had a substantial number of people choosing Matt Bevin but also Alison Lundergan Grimes and Andy Beshear, or if only Conway underperformed so badly.
Here’s the polls from the KY governors’ race:
Eurocentrism.
No, we don’t like their ways either. Liberals, if anything, have a eurocentrism problem since they seem to think we should do things how they do it there. Strange that while liberals endorse multiculturalism, their idea of how governments should be run is so… white.
Fully agreed, running away from your own party/president is basically admitting the other party is right, how can that ever possibly help?
I don’t know if it’s admitting that the other party is right. There’s a place for centrist candidates who can run against both party establishments. You can do it if you have the record to back it up. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins pulled it off for a long time in Maine. Collins still does. I think that Joe Manchin also has that credibility for the Democrats. But for candidates with scant records it can be a lot tougher to convince voters. After all, if you are an independent type strictly looking out for your state, then why did the national party recruit and fund you? Matt Bevin, for all his stupid, could claim quite credibly that he’s independent from the national GOP establishment. They didn’t want him. Conway’s been the Democratic establishment’s darling in KY for four statewide races now.
Indeed, in a state race for Governor, one must thread the needle with regard to being independent from Washington and the national party apparatus, while still being of-the-party. I would think this is somewhat easier for Republican candidates when there is a Democrat in the White House. Add in the notion that Republicans sort of own the “States Rights” thing, it’s no surprise Republicans are in so many Governorships.
The LT. governor is also a die hard Tea Partier:
Republicans actually won all the statewide races.
The Democratic Governors’ Assocation just stepped on Hillary Clinton’s puppy:
If this is the year of the outsider, as in outsiders can actually win elections, then that does not bode well for the ultimate insider.
You should know by now that whenever you opine on what “liberals” or “Democrats” think, you embarrass yourself. This is another example. Most liberals see this much more as a shade of gray: they like what they see as in European health care models and the rejection of capital punishment, while seeing the US and Canada as being much superior at integrating immigrants successfully. Liberals don’t have a uniform position on parliamentary vs. presidential democracies.
Fair enough, but Elvis was doing some mind-reading of his own there.
I think Elvis was making a joke. Since traditionally, Americans with political power were Europeans.
Perhaps. But I still object because Americanism is distinct from European culture for a reason. A country like Canada is pretty Eurocentric but we’ve always played by our own rules.
OK, so he won, and now he’s going to banish ObamaCare in Kentucky!
Really?
Which has nothing to do with what you had posted originally.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Effect on 2016? Obviously, Kentucky is going to go red either way, but will taking health care away from a couple hundred thousand poor Kentuckians provide a cautionary tale for swing states?
Ahem … the term was used here:
What “image” does Obama project that previous presidents did not? :dubious:
Darker.
Well, the question for 2016 is the same as it’s been for eight years. Will Democrats turn out with Obama not on the ticket? Do the Democrats have an off-year turnout problem, or simply a turnout problem?
As for health care, it will be interesting to see if Bevin can get Medicaid expansion revocation through the legislature.