Not only that; President Clinton’s paragraph was from 1998, while the part quoting Hillary was from 2003.
Point of order, though (getting back to 2017): Loach implies (in post 24) that the OP had reported the quotes which so offended him. He also implies that the moderation staff did not see fit to moderate the quotes or to respond to him by PM. The disturbing implication that follows (assuming I am inferring correctly from the first two implications), is that, not getting what he considered to be satisfactory results from the reports he submitted, Quartz decided to take it to ATMB and post his objections in the guise of a concern about the moderation of the Board.
ISTM that this type of behavior ought not to be encouraged. Taking the moderation staff to task for moderation actions they have taken is one thing; second-guessing their apparent decision to not act on a submitted report smacks of Junior Modding (and I sincerely hope that invoking that term here does not make me guilty of Junior Modding myself).
If my assumption that Quartz submitted reports is off the mark, please consider my concerns to be purely of a general nature. In fact, please consider them that way regardless; it’s an interesting question.
Moderation decisions are generally subject to inquiry and ATMB is the appropriate place to do so. Moderation decisions include both action and inaction, and whether or not Quartz reported the post is not relevant to the general rule. Other rules about harassment, following official instructions, etc. still apply.
As a matter of personal preference and attempted courtesy, I will continue my practice, when I report a post, of deferring to the staff to adjudicate whether the report merits moderator action on said post.
I find this line of reasoning to be totally overblown. Do people accuse teachers of lying when they put a trick question on a test?
But we’re beating a dead horse here. The thread has been closed for so long that we can all now laugh about how so many people thought that there could never be a President worse than GWB.
And I’m truly baffled by Quartz’s bizarre tendency to think Trump is the aggrieved party in so many disputes. He has made fairly clear that he doesn’t actually support Trump, and yet the most minor slights directed Trump’s way sometimes causes his to rush to Trump’s defense. It’s like he feels the need to throw his body in the way to save a grown man from an oncoming HO-gauge toy train.
I would add that since the quote from Bill was from a time when he was the president, that makes it even more questionable as a “lie”. The quote from Hillary being included was, of course, completely without justification. I wouldn’t believe for second the claim that it was “inadvertent” as was made in the second thread that Shodan linked to.
I think mixing the Hillary quote in with the Bill quote could be considered jerkish. That might not be the best descriptor, since it is rather broad, but I think it’s still accurate. “Deliberately deceitful” is probably better.
There are people on this board that engage in these sort of gotcha OPs still, these counting-coup posts in which they deliberately mislead readers about some aspect of the facts they present. I read, and post, in GD to understand issues better; when I know that someone is more interested in scoring points, I find it tiresome. Before I post in their threads, I know I have to do extra work to be sure they’re not trying to trick me into some sort of embarrassment.
That’s an asshole move, and it detracts from the value of discussion, in my opinion.
I won’t argue with you except to say that debating can be dirty business. A “gotcha” post or OP, as long as it is not deliberatively deceptive, is just part of debating. Do you boo and hiss when you’re preferred candidate trips up his or her opponent in the election debates with a nice little “gotcha”? Or if the moderator does that? In the end, we’re all just a bunch of anonymous people on a MB. If you get tripped up, then maybe it gives some insight into your thinking process.
Like back in 2003, when december posted his gotcha, and then people argued about it for 5 pages? Another three pages to go, and we’ll live up to those halcyon days.
Yes, that explains why every satirical website like The Onion has been shut down since the election and Stephen Colbert and Trevor Noah are in prison. :rolleyes:
I dunno. I would not be at all surprised to find that Trump was considering it, (which was the claim–not that he had taken steps to implement it). Trump minions have implied on several occasions that they feel that the government should have the right to control an obstreperous media.
