Trust me, you can be either tall or fat, too.
(Actually, you can just be fat. Tall is elusive. Stores have half of their racks dedicated to petites, and if you want “tall” it’s only available online. I don’t see all these short people walking around - why do they need so many clothes? And I’m barely above average, what do women who are really tall do?)
I need new jeans. They discontinued the ones that I liked.
My favorite jeans were discontinued, too, so I’m watching this thread hoping for a solution. I’m continually amazed at my ability to go into a department store, try on every style of jeans in the place, and maybe emerge with something that I barely don’t hate.
I think it’s hard to be short and under 60. I have an easy time finding petite sections full of old-lady clothes, but normal things can be problematic. Also, since petite sizes are designed for women “under 5’3”, they vary a lot, so often I find the petites too short and the regulars too long (I’m 5’2" but like to wear thick-soled shoes). I need to resign myself to having jeans altered, I think.
I’m interested in finding non-stretchy jeans that fit, too; it seems like almost everything is stretch now! I don’t mind minor stretchiness, but I like denim because it’s thick and holds it shape, but most of the jeans I’m seeing are paper thin.
Lands End looks tempting; I hadn’t considered them.
Banana Republic has a nice variety of petite clothing that doesn’t look old-ladyish
My goodness I’d love to live in this mythical place where a store has “half their stock in petites!!!” Most places do not carry petites at all. A few stores carry a limited selection of their crappiest petite clothing instore, with the rest online (Banana Republic, I’m looking at you).
My favorite is New York & Co - they only have petite pants, no petite shirts. WTF??? Apparently it has not occured to them that petite-pant wearers might also have a short torso. Seriously, their oxford shirts stood off my shoulders 2 inches, and the collar was around my ears. It was truly the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen, and I have tried on a lot of ill-fitting clothes in my day. (Sorry tall ladies, they only have pants in Tall as well, it’s equal opportunity stupidity)
Yep. I’m shy of 5’4" and a size 18. My size, apparently, lives in some mythical land with unicorns and Big Foot. Petites are made for dolls. Women’s are made for Amazons. Regular doesn’t go up to 18. So, to review, it’s like I’m Goldilocks. This size is tooooo small. This size is toooo big. This size is toooooo… impossible to be conceived of in any clothes makers’ imagination.
Dolls and Amazons, huh? Ah I love how women are supportive of one another and don’t bash each other’s bodies. Brings a tear to my eye, really.
It’s called “TJ Maxx” aka “Marshall’s”
I’m not bashing. I’m drawing an image. There is nothing inherently judgemental about either term.
ok. If you say so.
I do say so. If you have a problem, take it somewhere else. You have absolutely NO grounds for assuming I am not supportive of women or that I bash their bodies. Step off.
Sure you are, you’re bashing women who aren’t short and fat. Specifically, you’re bashing small women (dolls) and tall women (Amazons). It’s perfectly acceptable 'round here, since the majority of the dope is obese.
Step off? Holy crap. Did you just walk out of a bad sitcom or something? Seriously, that’s funny.
lindsaybluth summed up what I see when I read what you’ve described. Would it be fair for me to describe someone who is petite and fat as a troll? That would be drawing an image as you say you were doing.
Ladies, ladies…
So the answer to the OP is stop wearing pants.
Yes! Because that’s the way I refer to myself! I said the *clothes *were made for dolls and amazons. Take it up with the clothes makers who only seem women in those two shapes.
Actually my Syms’s AKA Marshall’s only has one teensy little rack of petites. Apparently petites-clothing buyers only wear hideous, garish prints, and never ever want to wear a conservative suit.
Ahh, the excuse that never fails. “I’m not a princess-model so they don’t make clothes for my shape. They only make clothes for the shape of non-existent people!” Glad you think small, petite women are dolls. I’ve been called a skinny bitch quite a lot, and I’m 15 pounds overweight. Just because the rest of the US is getting fat doesn’t mean I’m somehow magically underweight in comparison.
As we’ve repeatedly gone over in many, many threads, it’s literally impossible to make clothes for very fat people, because very fat people do not all have the same shape. Two women at 5’4" and 210 pounds do not have the same shape; one has a fat ass and the other may be top heavy or have huge thighs. A size 6 and a size 8 woman have generally the same build but the size 8 lady has bigger hips, thighs, and a slightly wider torso, so shirts and pants and suit jackets etc can be made from the same design. If clothesmakers could make a profit off of the sizeable portion of the US that is obese - and not have the tent-like structures that so many retailers employ - they would do so in a heartbeat.
I see you’re trying to get your nefarious no-pants-day to catch on…
Yep. I’m short, and come from a line of short people. My father is 5’3", and could NOT find a decent suit or even business casual clothes, so he took to making his own. It’s not just the length, usually the pants are either flared or bellbottomed or pegged at the ankle, and a short person needs a shorter rise or the waist of the pants will come up to just under the armpits. There’s really no way to alter pants to take care of the rise, unless they are something like pajama pants. And pocket placement will be problematic, as well.
Jeans, being made of denim, and usually having flatfelled or French seams, are particularly nasty to take up. Trying to sew through six or more layers of denim (at the seams) can strain even the most heavy duty of home machines. It’s cheaper to send the jeans to a tailor than to buy a machine that costs several thousand dollars.
Actually, it’s perfectly possible to have different body shapes in misses’ sizes, too. There’s the height issue, but there’s also women who wear misses sizes who are top heavy, or bottom heavy, or have a narrow waist or broad shoulders. My daughter is quite broad shouldered as well as being busty, and last year she gave up looking for a woman’s coat and bought herself a men’s trench coat, which doesn’t bind in her shoulders OR her chest. When I was young and slim, I wore a size 5 or 7 jeans, but I had to wear a large or extra large top (16-18) because I wore, even when I was quite slim, a DD cup. My daughter comes by her boobs honestly. People come in wide and narrow builds…even a very thin woman might have wide shoulders and hips, and so need a larger size, whereas my paternal grandmother, with delicate bird bones, was a bit plump.
Me? I wear dresses, because I’m damned tired of taking up every pair of pants. I just bought a couple of pair of leggings, to wear under my dresses for warmth. They are marketed as “petite”, yet I’m going to have to take each pair up at least 6 inches. Even in dresses, though, the pockets will hit me at mid thigh instead of being just below the waist.
You have reading comprehension problems. I never ever said that petite women are skinny bitches. You have reading comprehension problems. I never said that I think petite women are dolls. I said, and then clarified, that the people who are making these clothes seem to think that petite women are dolls. And that tall broad women are amazons. I don’t think I’m a princess, either. I am frustrated that there is no department that has clothes that I can even have altered to fit. If they had a Clothes for Trolls department I would happily shop there. But I guess if I call myself a troll because I’m short and fat, that I’m disparaging my short and fat sisters, right? Please, tell me more about how I’m supposed to think and feel as a woman. Please, continue to put words and intentions in my mouth because YOU need to. Please call me out for “bashing” other women and then call me a princess.
And, while you’re at it, go back and read my OP and my first responses to it. I get that there aren’t clothes made for me, that’s why I am asking for websites that allow me to have jeans made specifically for me because the clothes that ARE made for me (and generally fit) at Eddie Bauer, Lane Bryant, and Old Navy have turned to shit quality because the makers need to continue to make a profit. (See that? See how I understand that clothing retailers need to make a profit?) I said that of the two issues, the quality of the fabric was the bigger concern. See how I asked for recommendations for clothes I could buy off the rack that would fit? See how I did’t complain about those lucky skinny bitches and those tall broad bitches who’s lives are all candy and rainbows because they get whole departments made for them?
I made a smart-ass joke about my frustrations with the way clothes are made and you and sleeps decided to call me out for not supporting my sisters enough. While, ironically, both of you took jabs at fat women. Brings tears to my eyes, it really does. I suppose if I mention that I also think it sucks that womens’ clothes are often made with the crappiest patterns and colors, I loose my feminist cred for implying that fat women have no taste. Fat ass tasteless bitches.
I would just like to register with the “I love being called an Amazon, and consider it a high compliment” contingent. Err . . . where are we supposed to stand again?
There is quite good deal of insult and judgment building in this thread. I, for one, am finding it quite uncomfortable, and wish you all would take your agenda to the Pit, where IMHO it belongs.