Ladies: Would you get involved with a Saudi Arabian man?

This guy is heading into walking stereotype territory - that’s what guys who are looking to cheat say, regardless of the reality.

That does seem likely.

Of course. But given the fact that he probably didn’t get much of a chance to get to know his wife before getting married, it’s easy to believe it could be true. And for most Americans I’d say if your marriage is that bad, end it, but in this case, that would likely leave her in a worse position with even fewer options. But I guess maybe he could end it and choose to not screw her over, even though his government would let him if he wanted to.

Anyway, he can’t have it both ways. If he’s going to go along with his culture then he can’t date liberal American women. And he didn’t just want NSA sex. That would have at least made sense, but he wanted more.

Johanna, given your earlier post I’d be interested in knowing your response to this.

Stranger things have happened. I know a couple of Americans who became second wives to Muslim Cameroonians. The heart wants what the heart wants, and all that.

Jews don’t ascribe divinity to aught but Allah. Under liberal interpretations, People of the Book are not counted as infidels. Different passages in the Qur’an can be used to support contradictory rulings on whether Christians count as “infidels” or not.

Er. Sorry, I wasn’t clear enough. Earlier you posted this -

And, truthseeker responded with a cite. I was wondering which of you was right.

Did they convert to Islam?

I think about 50% of saudis end up married to their cousins, so it’s more likely than you’d think.

Edit: I noticed that may have sounded like a racist and made up thing to say, so here’s a cite: Saudi Arabia's cousin-marriage epidemic * WorldNetDaily * by WND Staff - it’s 60% actually. This is a problem in the UK not from Saudis but many especially from Bangladesh are marrying their cousins and as they don’t understand genetics being a huge drain on the public health system.

To answer the OP - no. I would not. Their cultural ties are too strong, and the advantages that their misogynist religion bestows on them too significant, for them to shed that baggage easily. The same goes for Indians (including once-upon-a-time Indians, like Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc.) and for men from the Orient (Japan, China etc.). Be as nice to them as you would to any other human being, but it is safest to avoid emotional involvement.

Mulder said “The truth is out there.” Johanna says “The truth is all over the place.” Because religious authority in Islam is decentralized, there is no one answer to almost all questions like these.

It happened with me the same story. But, I am the Saudi guy who is really likes my English teacher just to hang out with her and have her as friend because I want to open conversation and improve my English with someone I like. Also, to get rid of the homesick that is ruining me.

Lot’s of generalizing going on, but this guy is an individual. Many Americans (myself included) have ancestors who immigrated because they didn’t agree with the philosophy of their home countries and sought a better/freer life here. Get to know him and give him a chance.

Didn’t read the whole thread, did we?

OP did give him a chance and went on a “getting to know you” date with him.

And found he’s married with kids and believes women are “happier” staying at home and not working.

But don’t let that get in the way of your lecture!

A lot of men of all nationalities think that. Seriously I think some of you must live in the women’s studies department of a major university :slight_smile:

Ha! No, scanned it only. Guilty as charged. If that’s so, OP-move on.

What’s your point?

Blackberry was concerned that this guy’s culturally conservative upbringing would lead to his having beliefs that are inconsistent with hers, including the belief that women shouldn’t want to work or drive or be independent.

It’s not about “a lot of men of all nationalities” it’s about this guy of this particular nationality and whether he’d be compatible with her beliefs and cultural behaviours - and her concerns were well-founded, because it appears they’re not.

And what the hell does being concerned about someone from a known conservative culture having conservative beliefs about a woman’s place in the home have to do with “some of [us living] in the women’s studies department of a major university”? You have a problem with women wanting to find out upfront if someone is going to try and insist they stay at home and be little more than a sex toy and housekeeper for them?

The point is that even most american men are going to have SOME misogynist beliefs, or think that women are happier or at home or blah blah blah. If the guy’s biggest flaw is thinking women are HAPPIER staying at home then he isn’t too bad by most standards.

Dude still keeps contacting me all the time too, btw. He’s acting nice about it, but not really because I told him I’m not interested and he’s not respecting that. He just wants a chance to “explain” everything, which I assume means try to change my mind.

blackberry you did not read my comment
It happened with me the same story. But, I am the Saudi guy who is really likes my English teacher just to hang out with her and have her as friend because I want to open conversation and improve my English with someone I like. Also, to get rid of the homesick that is ruining me.

Okay, but are you really only interested in her as a friend? Are you married? Do you think your views on gender roles are compatible with those of a typical American woman?