You have to listen to the Japanese TV for a while to really appreciate the sheer horror of the whole thing.
The ‘aftershocks’ are so common now they don’t even make the live news.
First you say it’s a “new quake” and now you’re calling it “after shocks”. Are you even certain about what you talking about? Yes, aftershocks can be as strong as a major quake but they’re more or less expected after any earthquake. Not amazing news unless they cause damage themselves. You made it sound like there was a new disaster brewing - like Japan doesn’t have enough of that lately - when really it’s just the aftermath of the March 11 quake still playing out.
Just calm down. Yes, it’s serious but your antics are in no way helpful to anyone.
I reported that on live Japanese TV, which I provided a link to, they reported an earthquake warning. Part of the point was people are trying to sound all smart like they know stuff, and dismiss news reports, but they won’t even watch the TV. Then when I, who was watching, note that live TV reported an earthquake warning, they said because it wasn’t on their local news, I was making it up. Or some such nonsense. I tend to ignore idiots who say stupid shit like that.
Then I post a link to show how there were three earthquakes yesterday, which is what the live TV warning was warning about.
Just because the western media calls a 6.1 earthquake an ‘aftershock’, doesn’t mean the Japanese don’t put out warnings when an earthquake happens. They are especially concerned over tsunamis, which can occur still.
But hey, spin it how ever you want. We know it’s not about the facts.
My brother the engineer (software, not nuclear; but he has a master’s degree in engineering and I’m sure he generally knows his stuff) assures me that even if the plant goes into total meltdown, there will be no Chernobyl-style disaster – because Fukushima uses water-cooled reactors. The Chernobyl reactor was cooled by graphite, which is combustible and, when it combusted, scattered radioactive particles across the countryside. The Fukushima plant can’t do that.
He also expresses amazement that all the media coverage ignores this.
Yeah, well, every time you come up with these whoppers I check NHK as a matter of course. When I popped up there there was zero on “earthquakes” or “aftershocks”, which sort of makes you look foolish.
Of course, some of us get our information from more than just the TV - written articles tend to stay up longer so when people read your post a half an hour later they can still see what you saw.
We’re not dismissing your links, but when we go to them and it links to something other than what you’re claiming it doesn’t help your credibility.
Anything for a good story…even if it’s filled to the brim with nonsense. The scarier something can be made to seem, the more the lemminglike public will buy it, uncritically. It’s the Foxnewsification of the world I tells ya.
And you wonder why not many of us seem to be taking you seriously. :rolleyes:
You think I’m serious? That a serious person wastes his time on internet boards talking crap to anonymous cowards?
Please.
I’m not sure if “hysterical” or “fear mongering” is congruent with “serious”, unless you throw “seriously ridiculous” into the mix.
That would make you a troll, which is against the rules of this board.
If you’re posting crap you don’t believe in this thread – or anywhere else at the SDMB – I recommend that you stop immediately.
twickster, MPSIMS moderator
Posting nonsense, with nothing to back it up, that is trolling. And I would agree that it should be against the rules. But what if somebody actually believes the nonsense? That is why I have asked people to post a link or a source for their ridiculous claims. And I’ve ignored the insulting accusations of other members, who just make up crap and then refuse to discuss it, or provide any evidence for what they said. You can be funny and still tell the truth. I meant I’m not serious about what internet people say, when they are making it up. Or trying to move the goalposts, or what ever it is called.
Looking at the US Geological Service list:
On March 22, the east coast of Japan had 22 earthquakes at magnitude 5.0 or higher, and 5 of the 26 were magnitude 6.1 - 6.6. Still rockin’ and rollin’. One of the 6.6 quakes had an epicenter 194 miles east of Fukushima.
I saw that on live TV. They set off tsunami warnings because of the location of the center. What a horrible situation for those poor people. All this, and it isn’t over.
Chernobyl used water as a coolant and a moderator, the graphite in it acted as a moderator to help sustain the reaction (AFAIK). The big problem with that type of reactor is that the water also moderated the reaction so that in case it was drained or boiled off the nuclear fissions would actually increase, the power output would go up and the heath would skyrocket. At the time the reactor blew up it’s estimated that the power output peaked at 30GW (from a nominal 1000MW or so); that’s why it blew up. As a point of reference, the space shuttle engines and boosters at liftoff produce 12GW of power.
It was indeed a terrible design and horribly mismanaged on the lead up to the explosion.
The Japanese meteorological agency yesterday said there have been 318 aftershocks of at least magnitude 5 since March 11th. Earthquakes, aftershocks, call them what you will, they are bloody scary and wearing on body, mind and spirit.
Holy shit, that’s a lot of big aftershocks. I mean, we had 'em for months after Northridge but very few were that big past the first couple of days. I suppose the bigger the quake the bigger and the more numerous the aftershocks (pure WAG, but makes sense to me), and this quake was quite literally orders of magnitude bigger than anything in my experience.
In the wake of the Indian Ocean tsunami, it was in the news that a quake apparently had to be at least magnitude 7.5 to spawn a tsunami. I don’t know if this figure has been adjusted, but they often do tsunami warnings for quakes of smaller magnitude than that, possibly just to be safe.
My family’s there are ok now. but they lost their house 
I’m sorry to hear that. I’m glad though that they are all OK physically. That’s the most important thing…