I didn’t have a problem getting his point. He actually had a few, I think.
We’re glad you’re so intelligent, Baldwin, and we all hope you have fun at your intelligent movies and we’ll have fun at our stupid Transformers movie. At the end of the day, you’ll be that much better than us for talking down to us about how stupid we are for wanting to see it, and how we’re contributing to the downfall of society by doing so. Never mind the fact that there are probably a lot of us who like intelligent movies and brainless actioners alike, and who realize that not every film has to win some stamp of approval from some intelligentsia film festival or snooty critic in order to be be worth watching … at least, to those of us who aren’t condescending about it by thread shitting on a post about a movie that many of us are excited to see.
I wasn’t aware I was only supposed to watch films that are supreme artistic achievements. I’ll go throw out my Stars Wars, Jaws and Wizard of Oz dvds for a start.
I forgot to mention…What the hell colors is Optimus Prime? Purple and orange?
How can you slam a film for its mindlessness and completely ignore it’s worth as a vehicle to convey a world that doesn’t exist in a manner that allows the viewer to suspend belief. The techniques and technologies honed in this film will undoubtedly be used in the future to bring images of times long since past and images beyond reality to life in the movies. As the wheel goes 'round and things that are old become new again the literary classics that will undoubtedly be remade on film will be given new life because of a craft born from “$150 million pieces of shit” like this.
So back up, get over yourself, and let the movie be what it is.
In the meantime, bring on the 'splosions, giant robots and mayhem, baby!
C’mon you guys…what is this your first week on the Dope? Baldwin is just carrying on a long-standing Board tradition. It doesn’t matter whether we’re discussing our favorite games, movies, music, cars, colors, art, or whatever, it is required that a member come along and make sure that you know how low-brow and base your likes are. It is like dropping the Hitler bomb or arguing whether a picture has been photo-shopped or not.
For more backstory you can also read Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday by Alan Dean Foster. It relates events that are close in time to when the movie takes place.
If you can read, that is. I personally prefer just to drool a bit and laugh outrageously at TV shows where people fall over lawn chairs in a hilarious manner.
I enjoy loud, violent action movies. But not if they’re shit. So far, Michael Bay has made nothing but shit. Enormous amounts of technical skill involved (on the part of everybody but the director, who doesn’t know how to direct or edit action scenes) to produce $100 million movies with five dollar scripts.
I wasn’t even commenting on the odd spectacle of adults discussing stories that were originally written to appeal to bright eight-year-olds. Perhaps we should all be that much in touch with our inner child. I’ll even stipulate that it’s possible to make a good movie based on an animated half-hour toy commercial from the 1980’s. But Michael Bay isn’t the guy to do it.
You know, Baldwin’s right. We should read real mythology, like Paul Bunyan. Not manufactured mythology like the Transformers.
…
Anyhow, kid, it might suck, it might rock. The new trailer is showing a higher degree of rock than suck. It’s not Amelie, or Good Bye Lenin, and it probably won’t be even Reservoir Dogs. But it might be Equilibrium, and it might be X-Men. Transformers has always had some minor pretensions to quality. “Freedom is the right of all sentient beings”, after all. And hell, Orson Welles in his last role.
Interesting; don’t remember ever saying that. Didn’t, in fact. There’s nothing wrong with “manufactured mythology”. I believe it’s called fiction, which I write.
Again: there’s no reason one couldn’t make a good movie about giant intelligent robots disguised as cars, trucks and aircraft. It’s just that Michael Bay is a shitty, shitty director. But who knows, maybe he’ll surprise us.
