rbroome:
If this law is passed, it will be interesting to watch the next charity congressional baseball game. All the Rs will be wearing sidearms and trying to bat/run, while all the Ds will be afraid to be the pitcher…
Oh yeah, the guys always throw the bat away when they charge the pitcher.
Scumpup:
I was a deputy sheriff. The idea that cops, as a group, have any meaningful training is hilarious. Some cops, on their own, become skilled shooters. Academy training amounts to little more than “the bullet comes out the end with the hole in it.”
That’s still more training than civilian gun owners are required to have.
What training should civilian gun owners have? Do you support literacy tests for voters too?
Point at the center of the body and pull the long, pointy thing that comes out the bottom until it stops making noise.
The Constitution says gun ownership and carrying cannot be infringed by the government and a mandatory training requirement would violate that. If I was a legislator, I would vote against a law requiring training for gun ownership and if I were a judge, I’d overturn such a law.
You need to learn the difference between somebody mentioning something and somebody advocating for something.
Know the laws about when you can do that. Is your potential target the assailant or another CCW holder doing the same as you’re about to do? Assess what is behind/adjacent to your potential target and the consequences of a miss.
Those are the instructions Matt Helm gave for shooting Russian spies. YMMV.
I can shoot bad guys in my house, but if they run out the door, I can’t.
That is Arkansas law. In nearby Texas, I think you can shoot anyone anywhere 24/7.
carnivorousplant:
Those are the instructions Matt Helm gave for shooting Russian spies. YMMV.
I can shoot bad guys in my house, but if they run out the door, I can’t.
That is Arkansas law. In nearby Texas, I think you can shoot anyone anywhere 24/7.
The thread is about concealed carry off your personal property.
Little_Nemo:
The Constitution says gun ownership and carrying cannot be infringed by the government and a mandatory training requirement would violate that. If I was a legislator, I would vote against a law requiring training for gun ownership and if I were a judge, I’d overturn such a law.
You need to learn the difference between somebody mentioning something and somebody advocating for something.
Even Scalia said that regulation is compatible with the 2nd. (Surprised the hell out of me.)
Here is Justice Antonin Scalia, writing the majority opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the Supreme Court reversed a long-held position and ruled that the Second Amendment did give Americans an individual right to own firearms. The court said the District’s ban on handguns in private homes went too far, but that regulation of gun ownership was compatible with the Second Amendment:
Okrahoma:
Lawmakers Could Carry Concealed Guns Virtually Everywhere, Under Republican's Bill - Newsweek
“The bill would grant rank and file members of Congress the ability to conceal weapons “in nearly every conceivable scenario,” according to information released by Babin’s office, including federal parks and buildings, the national mall, at schools, on military bases and to and from their offices. There would only be a few limited restrictions, including national special security events and other areas under the direct jurisdiction of the Secret Service and commercial airliners.”
My opinion: no, no, no, hell no. You’re not better than I am. If I cannot carry concealed, neither can you.
I will personally contribute $ to any and every primary contender for every Republican who votes for this monstrosity.
This is actually an issue I agree with you on. Let them live by the same gun laws as everyone else.
Same with healthcare. The congress should have to live with ACA or AHCA plans.
Actually, Congress is covered by the ACA.
Prior to the passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (also known as ACA, or Obamacare), members of Congress received the same healthcare insurance benefits as any other federal employee through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, or FEHBP.
During the mark-up of the ACA bill, however, lawmakers inserted a provision (Section 1312(d)(3)(D)) that requires members of Congress and designated congressional staff members to obtain their health insurance through ACA exchanges rather than continue to receive their healthcare coverage through the FEHBP.