That pretty much answers my question; I’ll print that out and show it to my b.i.l.
Thank’ee!
(Takes me back! I remember having to go downtown to the Law Library to look up specific statutes and codes and stuff. Now, it’s on the internet…providing one knows how to search, which I clearly don’t…but I will learn!)
I want to get rid of these indecency statutes with respect to simple nudity just about everywhere. I think it is silly of government to nitpick about what parts of the human anatomy should remained covered. Let’s just stop worrying about who sees what parts and get used to public nudity. if you want to regulate what what I wear or don’t wear on your private property, that is up to you, but otherwise let me be, let my wife be, let my grandparents and let my children be .
Although do note the subtle distinction that this doesn’t say being naked in public is necessarily illegal on federally-owned land, just that public nudity is one of the things the managing agencies have the ability to ban in certain areas.
Did you see this on that same CFR link;
(bb)Possessing a beverage which is defined as an alcoholic beverage by State law.
That must be desuetude then??
Also do you know what the ACA is?
Assimilative Crimes Act, 18 U.S.C. § 13
The Assimilative Crimes Act, 18 U.S.C. § 13, makes state law applicable to conduct occurring on lands reserved or acquired by the Federal government as provided in 18 U.S.C. § 7(3), when the act or omission is not made punishable by an enactment of Congress.
I agree with this abstract point of ideology. I don’t think that nudity is harmful. (I’m not so sure about “flashing.” That’s sort of like whistling or cat-calls: it involves an aggressive context that goes beyond ordinary speech.)
I’m not completely clear what you’re saying here… What is “desuetude?” The dictionary only says “disuse.” Help me out a little…
I think I get the business where Federal Law says that State Laws “leak” into Federal lands, when there isn’t any specific other Federal Law covering an issue. Speed limits, or things like stop signs, might fall into that category. I had guessed, above, that there might be such an effect.
Couldn’t it also be a matter of voluntary transfer of jurisdiction, sort of like extradition? A guy streaks in a National Park: the Park Rangers might simply hand him over to State or local authorities and let them deal with it? They don’t have to, but they can?
Obviously, a guy fleeing from, say, a bank robbery can’t drive into a National Park and claim “asylum.” “Your state laws don’t apply to me here, ha ha!” Of course not: the Park authorities would respect the State and local police’s jurisdiction over the fugitive. At worst, there would be some paperwork to fill out…right?
I want my grandparents to walk around naked if they want to walk around naked. What I don’t want to see, is my problem, and I’d get used to it if society told me I should not try to control their clothing choices or lack of clothing choices with statutes, dirty looks or judgments.
Right now we have folks who wear plaids with stripes, ugly Mu Mus, and neon pink hair, pierced tongues, and sagging jeans down to their kneecaps and even though these choices distress us, we somehow survive the day. I think we will survive wrinkled butts, dangling genitalia and drooping boobs too even if it someone we love that has them on display.
In such a world celebrity photos and You-tube videos would often be clothing free and there would be no such thing as ‘sexting’ photos. Class school photos in the yearbook would have about a third overdressed with a nice sweater to please Mom who dressed them, a third casually dressed dressed and another third undressed. Swimsuit manufacturers would be out of business. If you ran out of clean laundry… no crisis through Saturday. Restaurants might have sections just like they did in the day of smokers.
Just to add to this a bit, many National Parks (as well as those sites run by lesser agencies) have Law Enforcement rangers. LE rangers are commissioned federal law enforcement officers, and they are there to enforce Federal, State, and local laws in the park as well as any general park regulations. In addition, there is the U.S. Park Police, who are usually found in DC, New York City, and San Fransisco, but can be detailed wherever needed. U.S.P.P officers are not classified as rangers.
Depending on the park the jurisdiction may be exclusive to the federal LE rangers, there may be concurrent jurisdiction with state and local law enforcement, or proprietary jurisdiction which means the feds only have the same rights as any landowner. That is the case for many smaller, urban parks.
A park I work with owns 4.5 beautiful acres in downtown Providence. There are no LE rangers there, so 99% of the time if there is an issue the local police is called. On two occasions in my time, (once for a rash of car break-ins, once for a huge spike in after hours drug dealing) LE rangers from Boston were detailed to run stakeouts in the park.
Finally non-LE National Park rangers, such as yours truly, have no powers of arrest. So if I were to find nudists afoot my choices would be to A: berate them sternly or B: call in the proper authorities.
Yes, if you are referring to the NPS units classified as National Parks they all have LE. Of course that is only 59 of the 401 units in the National Park Service.