Why havent i got the right to walk round naked in public?
Does this practise REALLY, and i mean REALLY offend the majority??
If a bloke or a woman was to go about their daily lives naked in public, i really woldnt care less. I dont wanna be faced with a boner staring at me when i order my Big Mac but other than that i vote FOR the right to be naked.
Any reasons against this??
Yes, it offends the majority.
Just think how unsanitary park benches, bus seats, restaurant seats, etc. would become. :eek:
On the other hand, bar stools wouldn’t be nearly as wide, and they’d be a lot harder to fall off of.
Some state ( i think Kentucky) actually proposed a bill to prohibit sexual arousal in public. think about it guys, how much control do you really have over the little one?
It’s amazing what people will find offensive, and probably amazing to them that we don’t find it offensive.
It’s simply that a majority (or a very vocal minority) has voted for regulations that restrict or outright outlaw public nudity. Most of them were written during earlier, more conservative times, so they seem more restrictive (to you, anyway).
It’s similar to noise restrictions. One man’s head-banging music is another’s annoyance.
I had blinds in my bed room and no other curtains. The came to withing a half inch of the edge of the window all around. My old mean bitch of a neighbor plays peepin tom with her face pressed against my window called the polices on me for indecent exposure and they said if i did not get more opaque curtains instead of the blinds they would arrest me next time.
Apparently you don’t even have the right to be naked in your own home.
Where do you live? (I would guess somewhere in the U.S.) This is the kind of thing that makes a ridiculous society preposterous – having no right to be the way one naturally is, even in one’s own home!
Hey, lee, close the damn blinds is my suggestion.
But I have to say that I find it very hard to believe that anyone, anywhere, could actually press their face against your window, violate your right to privacy, call the police and have you threatened with arrest simply for being naked in your own home. It is my understanding that “peeping toms” get busted if caught.
Does this person stand directly outside your window? Does she stand on the ground? Climb a ladder? Swing from a rope?
If your story is anywhere near true, I believe you are leaving out one hell of a lot of details.
Besides which, I just realized, you could have her arrested for trespassing!
Is a person’s behind any dirtier than their hands?
IIRC, there was a student at UC Berkley known as “The Naked Guy.” He simply didn’t wear clothes and went about his business (i.e, going to class, dining hall, etc.) in the nude. He was eventually kicked out of school but I seem to recall that it took a pretty long time to do it.
If someone wishes to walk around naked, I personally could not care less.
Plnnr,
Very good point. Take the park bench example. I can tell you that my well toned and firm bottom (hehehehe) is far cleaner than the tramps that sleep on the benches at night!
Lee,i would have gone absolutely mental if i was warned about being starkers in my OWN house! anyone looking in A) shouldnt be! and B) should respect the fact they are invading MY personal space and property, and then get lost if what they see offends them!
And anyway, IF public nudity became the norm, then measures would be introduced to combat sanitation issues. i.e. disposable seat covers, adapted washrooms, etc etc.
It depends, do you play with your shit?
Having visited a nudist park (White Tail Park - don’t you just love the name?) in Zuni, VA, I can tell you that common courtesy demands that you carry a towel with you to sit on. It isn’t so much for the poop (who’s that gross?), but for the hair.
Ever seen your grandparents naked? Me neither, but go to a nudist park and you’ll see folks of their vintage.
Yep, the Bezerkly “Naked Guy” only wore a backpack and shoes/sandles/whatever.
However, that’s Berkley… where they one gave an orientation telling you which side of the campus to get your drugs on (apparently the other side’s drugs were not… up to snuff).
I am gravely offended. Since my veracity is in question, I think this will be my last post.
This occurred in Quincy, Illinois in the summer of 1990 IIRC.
For some reason the bitch next door and the rest of her family took to hating my husband and me. She accused us of being mentally retarded and seemed to get that idea because we waited for the city bus in the morning with the group from the adult care home on the corner. She was nasty to them as well. The nudity incident was not the first time that she had called the police on me. It was the only time the police said that I was in the wrong. She also killed apparently killed most my miniature rose garden by pouring a chemical on it. The florist said the damage was most likely done by bleach or gasoline. She encouraged her daughter to threaten and assault us and her grandchildren to ride their bikes through our flower beds (especially just after a rain made the groung soft so they left big ruts) and make up nasty lies to taunt us with. Sometimes when we would walk to the corner I would see her whisper to her granddaughter and then the granddaugher would say something like “You mean he wears her underpanties?” She would weed her garden and throw the weeds in our yard, she threw ice and whatever she was drinking on me on more than one occasion. We could not move because we had a lease. The only time i ever called the police during this dispute was when the daughter ran up to me on the side walk in front of my house and started shoving me and when i refused to budge, yell, or strike back, she threatened to have her husband wipe the street with me and my husband. I testified to that in court and the case was dismissed when she testified she had never been married. She had lied in her threats, but she still had made them.
As for the nudity incident:
She was standing right against the house with he face pressed against the window and her hands sheilding her eyes form the glare of the sun. I saw her and screamed. Shortly after the cops showed up.
The police said that it was not even my property. He told me before he would do anything to her for trespassing I would have to prove to his satisfaction that the landlord did not want her on the property and had warned her not to tresspass.
The blinds were closed. There was a half inch gap between the blind and the window frame. You could only see if you were close to the house.
I only included the details that seemed relevant to the discussion. I do not take kindly to being accused of lying.
Good bye
lee,
I don’t think anyone called you a liar, or even really suggested it other than in the form of the normal, everyday 'board banter. Please calm down. Your story is disturbing, and sounds like you suffered from a long pattern of neighbor abuse. Having seen similar things in person, it makes me sad for you.
As to the OP, although I personally would not like it, I would support a right to be naked in public, so long as people could object to being contacted physically. I don’t know about y’all, but having some guy in a packed subway pressing his wang against my skirt and leaving “trails” would led to serious violence on my part.
I guess I am the one lee imagines called her a liar.
I don’t think I did, I said there were details missing from her story.
No further comment.
I would have found a blackmarket supply of termites and fireants and in the middle of the night dumped them all over her yard and house. RRRGGGHH! What a nasty woman. I hope that you don’t live near her anymore, or if you do that she is dying of some horrible disease. She sounds like the 1960’s sitcom neighbor (ie that woman from Bewitched) who always was spying on Samantha with a 90’s twist that she actually vandalizes your property. I would try to videotape her doing something and submit it to court. If I recall correctly, the cop was wrong in your case. If you live in the home (even renting) you take on the persona of the owner. Ie, it is then ocnsidered your house for all practical purposes. The owner can’t let himself in without your knowledge and consent thus Whorella Deville could not legally go over to your house and peep you if you did not give her consent. The cop probably had some type of relationship with the woman. You could have always said that you just got out of the shower and were getting dressed when you caught her peeping. She really sounds like an awful woman. Oh, as you took reasonable precautions (had the blinds down) to keep her from looking in then there is no reason that she should have been able to see you. That cop in my opinion is just as bad as that woman. He should have known better.
HUGS!
Sqrl
Sorry for my foul language, but I’ve been the victim of people just like her (most of them Catholics and Baptists, by the way) and they will not stop. If the police take their side once, they will do even worse things knowing that their version of ‘The Law’ is on their side. I’d sue her for emotional distress, not only for what she did to me, but for what she did to anyone else I knew. Pay especial attention to the child. If the child’s care is lacking in any way, that is a punishable offense. I’d bring her up on charges of destruction of property (rosebushes, etc. aren’t cheap, as your landlord knows) and I’d be very vocal about everything. If enough people know what a bitch she really is, they’d do a trillion little unpunishable things to her just to piss her off. Hell, she’s doubtless a paranoid anyway. Having people really hating her and really slighting her in ways only she notices would freak her out! But stay within the very letter of the law. Her having nothing to say against you in court but unverifiable babble and paranoid suspicions would be perfect. Her having a list of minor punishable offenses to read off (and she will, in duplicate) would be hell. Know this: Everything you do against her, real or imagined, will be remebered until she dies. Everything you do for her will be forgotten the second it’s done. Make her memories haunt her, don’t let them help her.