OK, I like drinking, too. But this is getting beyond sanity.
Know what else isn’t covered in the US Constitution? Drunk driving, pedophilia, identity theft, wire fraud, media piracy and mail theft.
None of those warranted an Amendment, yet they’re still illegal in all 50 plus DC.
Let me ask again. What the fuck is your point?
They are not your FFs, what do you know of their spirit? And thank goodness you don’t get to vote here.
You do get to post your views… Is this a great country or what?
And of course, nobody saw me giving up this one right?
roger, come over here. No, really, come here for a moment before I say this out loud. looks over both shoulders
OK, you’ve said you’re a Brit. And you live in Hong Kong. Everything you know in life has had fuck-all to do with gun ownership. Er, responsible gun ownership. It’s likely (though I may be wrong) that you have never even known a gun owner. And yet more likely that you have never fired a gun. And almost certainly have never taken the time to become trained in gun safety and use. Fear that which you do not know. It plays well on these boards. Let’s get back to the board, people are waiting.
warp to public posting
I’m now curious. For those living in countries that have banned guns, what is the main cause of non-health related deaths in your homeland? Surely without guns the taking of another’s life is unheard of, right? RIGHT? :dubious:
Oh, one more thing** roger**. For taking the opportunity to call for an amendment to the Constitution of a country you’ve never been a citizen of, a triple shot of your forced salad-tossing.
Ass monkey.
But I do fork out 15 greenbacks, you know!
Duffer, I first shot a rifle (.22) when I was about 11 (at school in the indoor firing range), and I enjoyed it. Still do, actually. In the summer of 2003, my family visited friends in the States (CA and KY), and while there, I shot rifles, shot guns (clay pigeon) and a handgun (no idea what calibre - quite a kick, though). This was on a small holding in Kentucky, with the father of our host. He was meticulous about safety. My wife and daughter (8) both had a go with the rifle.
So, my main objection is to the widespread availability and use of handguns, and other classes of firearm that don’t have a primary sporting function. I’ve attempted to give my feelings and reasons, both here and in at least a couple of other posts. Actually, I prefer joking around and displaying my dazzling wit, discussing movies, football, etc, but this is one issue that I really feel strongly about. I believe that some other Americans on the board feel similarly, but refrain from posting because to do so is to walk into a shit-storm and very tiring.
Fine. roger, all previous references to you not knowing/shooting guns are fully retracted.
You, your wife, daughter (let’s go here next) all shot a rifle? You realize that a rifle is what killed JFK, right? RIGHT? :dubious:
Why did you allow your own daughter to use an instrument of imminent death? Oh, sure, you can say a rifle is different from a handgun, as that’s your foreigner point in supressing my rights. If you can tell me that a piece of metal being launched from a rifle or handgun are different, please do.
Listen carefully. Guns, in every, any and all configurations, shoot projectiles at high speeds that will inflict either life-threatening wounds, death, or really good stories.
The attempt to somehow seperate handguns from rifles and shotguns is less than stellar. Shooting someone with a .30-.06 or 12-guage will have the same effect as being shot by one of my pistols.
Oh, those pistols I own? They are used for target practice to make sure I hit the right spot if someone breaks in the house. It stays in the house just like anyone’s corpse will if they want to try taking my shit.
Argue about shitbags using guns to commit crimes? Very low to begin with. Even lower when the victim has a gun to defend him/herself. Check out stats of crime in states that “allow” concealed-weapons versus those that ban the right. (I know this won’t be done, as it proves my point).
Oh yeah, I guess I should end this by asking once again, What the fuck do you have to do with gun ownership in the US?!?! If you feel so passionatly about it, come get 'em. Otherwise, shut the fuck up about this topic and let me try to work back to respecting you again. I hate when foreign dictators tell me what to do. :rolleyes:
In a nutshell, shotguns = ducks and skeet; rifles = targets (difficult to carry around and cumbersome to keep under the pillow); handgun = to shoot people who intrude, threaten you or your family.
Re handguns, there seems to be a better way, like not having them, as many other first world democratic countries manage. They really are a tragedy waiting to happen, as the events on the w/e in Houston showed.
Please drop the respect schlock. I hardly need your approval to sleep soundly at night - pistol or no pistol.
And I need respect from nobody as well. I was just hoping you’d give one single, solitary reason for thinking you know better than the rest of us stupid citizens of a country you visit, but don’t live in, yet demand a change to a basic and fundamental right.
So? Let’s have it, tough guy. Give us a reason, as a Brit living in Hong Kong, that your opinion should be relevant about the US Constitution.
I understand a rant about some senseless killings. But you’re using guns as your basis and calling for a ban in a country you don’t live in!
You still, how did I know this would occur :rolleyes: , haven’t given any stats on murders in your country. Either one, I’m open to stats from both.
Any toddler getting shot by another is one instance too many, statistically speaking, and I don’t think this kind of thing is common in the UK, or indeed in HK.
BTW, with all the tosh that local people - including much of the media - come up with about Hong Kong, many of us here actually welcome input from outsiders. They share much in common with us, including being members of the same species.
Mine didn’t get here from Italy until the early 1900’s. Like you, my family didn’t have any slaves or any involvement with them. Like you, after damn near 40 years of hearing about slavery and demands of reparation for 400 years etc etc etc, I am just as tired as you are, of being blamed for what some other long dead people did. Sure it was terrible, but we didn’t do it.
We didn’t do it. Our ancestors didn’t do it. The ones who did it are long dead anyway. We are not buying into the guilt trip over it.
Tee hee England. Don’t get so self righteous about Mother England. We’ve heard about the deadly soccer riots. Besides, what “social benefits” are you talking about? The law that forbids anyone from coming to the aid of a crime victim? That’s a reall good example. How about hooligans roaming the streets and randomly assaulting people for absolutely no reason because they know nobody will dare confront them? ROFLMAO.
Side note - who brought most of the slaves over to the proto-USA? The English. This was a slave state (in some ways) before the British left.
You can climb off that high horse now (wink wink)
Well, I think you should ask black people in the south what they needed guns to defend themselves against within recent memory. During the civil rights movement, people in a number of black communities survived only because they had guns with which to defend themselves. (no cite right offhand, as I am at work and posting while I wait for my next meeting)
Bullets don’t kill people! (It’s the hemorrhaging that kills them)
Do you still have “Under God” in your Pledge?