Led Zeppelin's Kashmir

So I just went to Youtube to revisit the original recording of Kashmir since the Celebration Day version is the one that’s become uppermost in my mind, and what did I see in the comments?

:smiley: Hard to quibble with that, really.

Ha. Though, for me that better describes “When the Levee Breaks.”

Hard to quibble with that also. :slight_smile:

The only problem I have with Kashmir is that a bunch of different artists I like have a version of it, and as good as they are, I don’t really want a bunch of slightly different versions of the same song on my play list.

HD/HQ Escala - Perform Kashmir Led Zeppelin - Britains Got Talent Semi Final Show 2 - YouTube

Kashmir - YouTube

Interestingly enough, I do have 3 versions of Bach’s “Toccata and Fugue” but they’re all quite different from each other, much more so than the above renditions of Kashmir.

Toccata By The Trans-Siberian Orchestra - YouTube (Only the beginning is really the same piece; I think it quickly diverges into something else entirely)
Jennifer Thomas: Illumination - Toccata and Fugue - Track 9 - YouTube

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Interestingly enough, I do have 3 versions of Bach’s “Toccata and Fugue” but they’re all quite different from each other, much more so than the above renditions of Kashmir.

Toccata By The Trans-Siberian Orchestra - YouTube (Only the beginning is really the same piece; I think it quickly diverges into something else entirely)

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Vive la différence!

“Hi. Me again with my Bits and Bites of Baroque. Stickin’ my fingers on the keyboard and comin’ out with a new handful. Well, what have we got here? Toccata and Fugue, and Introduction and Fugatto. Delicious. Next handful, a whole new ballgame. You can’t get enough of those Bits and Bites of Baroque snacks 'cause your ears never knows till’ its all over. Bits and Bites of Baroque: every handful is different. Yeah!”

(I don’t have a memory, so when messing about, I end up with bits of Bach’s Toccata and Fugue all jumbled up with bites of Harris’ Introduction and Fugatto, never knowing what will happen, but always enjoying the ride.)

Wow. Those were educational, glowacks, your mileage definitely varies from mine. i see talent in the execution, but man, those interpretations just don’t work for me. The middle violin guy sounds like a cut off Kansas’ Point of No Return album, which is kind of fun. The other two are too cheesy to really support the song.

Here’s a great string quartet version: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xriCZzyaC7Q

Just a great sound. The cellist, especially, when he kicks in after a couple minutes, oh man - what a great low end for this song.

Somewhat related pet hate: When people don’t know a bad film they like is a remake of a good film.

Case in point: My cousin liking The Haunting (1999).

I’m pretty sure they used one on “What Is And What Should Never Be”. That was released about 7 years earlier, IIRC.

Yep, on the vocals, right?

This is still a standout use on drums. Van Halen didn’t come out until '78, but his work still stands as notable use of phase shifting. That’s it. In this particular case, rather than just be a sound-cool novelty, it adds a bit of propulsion to Bonham’s drum groove, IMHO.

Oh’m’golly, this is so cute it makes me want to hurl…in a good way. Like a puppy.

My first “Crap, I’m getting old” experience was just like this. I’d been out of college for maybe five years, and was working in a car rental office with a younger kid, around 19-20 years old. He was an urban, thug-wannabe, and this was right when “Smooth” with Rob Thomas and Santana was big on the radio.

He and I were on a job together, driving around, and listening to this song, he said, “Man, I like this song. I’d love to play guitar like that Carlos Santana.” I’d been playing guitar for years at this point, and knowing his reputation and work, I was not a big Santana fan, still not. I replied with as much grace as possible, “Yeah, he’s good at what he does for an old guy.”

“…what do you mean?”

“Carlos Santana? He’s been around a long time.”

“Does he have a son?”

“He probably does, but this isn’t his son. This is him on the song. He was at Woodstock.”

Blew.his.mind. At 43, I’m no longer surprised kids 20 years younger than me don’t know all the pop culture from when I was their age, I simply find it extremely amusing. Walking through a Half Price bookstore about a month ago, I overheard the girls pricing CDs, “What’s this? ‘Marky Mark’ Is that Mark Wahlberg?!?”

“Heroes” has been covered a LOT. I’m partial to the TV on The Radio version, here.

Completely agree. Bonham was a monster. I was just addressing the bit about it being a new effect. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if it was first use on drums.

I am not that geeky on effects’ history. I just Googled first use of phase and I read general statements like “the late 60’s” and a first-popular-song mention of The Small Faces’ Itchycoo Park. No clue on first drum use. I think **Peter Criss **used them a lot in the solo (live? sweetened in the studio?) on Kiss Alive. But that’s just my 12 1/2 year old reptile brain trying to remember.

While we’re on the subject --phaser vs flanger – what’s the difference? I know I can look it up but I’d rather hear it from the guitar and music geeks.

Off the top of my head, I believe phasing affects that phase of the electric signal. Flanging affects time, adding a bit of delay.

In both cases the signal is split, with one copy kept normal and one copy affected. With phasing, the two signals cycle from completely in to completely out of phase. With flanging, the treated copy is cycled through a level of delay; like a cycling chorus effect.

I am very open to having someone correct any mistakes here. I really am not an effects guy, so I have only learned enough to grasp the basics.

Hey - Wikipedia seems to agree with me. Cool.

JHB actually got a writing credit for Kashmir.

As I was check that, couldn’thelp but read more of the wiki article. This made me smile about how they tried to recruit him into the band:

Brilliant: They didn’t know where he lived but they knew his local :smiley:

This has been a really fun thread to read.

Here’s more fun. Zeppelin all-girl cover band Zepparella and When The Levee Breaks. Sumbitch!

Indeed it does. The one you linked really doesn’t do anything for me. We like entirely different things about string interpretations of popular music.